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NASA’s Mars Sample Return mission is dead

456 points · 391 comments · Muhammad523

  1. peri-cl · · focus · HN ↗
    This article only obliquely mentions in the last paragraphs, but there's a parallel Chinese program that recently brought back samples from the moon, and will attempt Mars sample return, launching in 2028,

    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Tianwen-3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Tianwen-3

    1. notabee · · focus · HN ↗
      Anyone wanting to be involved in the future of scientific research should probably start learning Mandarin. We&#x27;re going the way of the Soviets, where political officers will quash any science that doesn&#x27;t fit their ideology. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;trump-planning-to-hand-veto-power-over-nih-grants-to-political-appointee&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;2026&#x2F;09&#x2F;trump-planning-to-ha...
      1. amarcheschi · · focus · HN ↗
        A few hours ago I was looking for some food safety information, found a US gov website posted on reddit and

        The website wasn&#x27;t available anymore

        1. drstewart · · focus · HN ↗
          Wow, what Chinese government site in Mandarin did you use instead?
          1. morsch · · focus · HN ↗
            Try learning German or French
            1. justarobert · · focus · HN ↗
              I think you might be looking the wrong direction along the timeline.
          2. cowboylowrez · · focus · HN ↗

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            1. walrus01 · · focus · HN ↗
              How many of those coins do you need to pay for a triumphal arch with drones and snipers on top of it?

              <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cbc.ca&#x2F;news&#x2F;world&#x2F;trump-arch-drones-snipers-9.7351306" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cbc.ca&#x2F;news&#x2F;world&#x2F;trump-arch-drones-snipers-9.73...

              Look, there&#x27;s your safety, forget about the food safety, obviously the real priority is the snipers. I feel so safe already.

          3. Rover222 · · focus · HN ↗
            yeah seriously
          4. totallymike · · focus · HN ↗
            I don’t understand the point you are trying to make. Is it that since the person didn’t find the page they were looking for, they must be a Chinese plant?
            1. drstewart · · focus · HN ↗
              Try reading the entire context of the thread this time.
          5. pjc50 · · focus · HN ↗
            It&#x27;s a bit of a poor example as well, because there was a long time when people were importing Australian baby formula into China because they didn&#x27;t trust the food safety standards there.
        2. sellmesoap · · focus · HN ↗
          We also inverted the food pyramid recently since the whole thing reeked of big sugar&#x2F;grain lobby, it can take a while for research to percolate above propoganda, and I&#x27;m not above suspecting the new pyramid of having its bias&#x27;
          1. FlowingRiver · · focus · HN ↗
            New pyramid leans very heavily on meat and dairy which goes contrary to most long term dietary studies. Those are industries that lobby heavily.
            1. MisterTea · · focus · HN ↗
              Big Bread vs Big Cow. Both are needed for pizza so maybe we can swap the pyramid for a rectangular &quot;office tower&quot; shape and call it a truce. Good opportunity for Big Pizza.
          2. iknowstuff · · focus · HN ↗
            Yeah the new one is trash. Meant and dairy are correlated with bad health outcomes. The Danish food piramid is legit. More legumes, whole veggies etc

            <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;europe&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1hpiuem&#x2F;the_official_dietary_guidelines_of_denmark&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;europe&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1hpiuem&#x2F;the_officia...

            1. MisterTea · · focus · HN ↗
              This sounds exactly like the &quot;Mediterranean diet&quot; my doctor recommended to me a long time ago.
              1. notabee · · focus · HN ↗
                There&#x27;s so much fad diet marketing and propaganda out there, but the Mediterranean diet is one of the few that&#x27;s actually backed by a decent amount of real scientific research as being healthy for most people.
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