There are some users reporting it improved a lot in the last few weeks. The max sub usage for Grok is around $12,000 of API pricing now, so a 40x multiplier for the $300 plan.
It is the same multiplier for Sol with subscription. For Astra though the multiplier is ≈20x, so half of Sol usage.
For Claude it seems to be ≈40x too for Opus, but less for Fable (similar to Astra in GPT).
All on the most expensive plan. Previously, Grok usage escalated linearly from the $100 plan to $300 plan. That would be a really good $100 plan if it is still true.
Either this is untrue or my account is in some bugged state. I bought the 300 plan 3.5 weeks ago, and found it's usage about 1/10th of others, running out always the first day of usage for the whole week while CC for example would last 2-3 at higher usage.
It reset just a few hours ago and I've been running it, couldn't be more than 15 sessions none more than an hour long:
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Session usage: no model calls yet in this session.
Weekly limit: 46%
Next reset: September 27, 23:20
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I actually have to believe my account is messed up tbh, it's so bad. For reference I've ran 12 fable and some ~40 Opus sessions since reset yesterday on a CC account, at least 5x more usage by my estimate:
Current week (all models)
28% used
Resets Sep 28 at 5am (Pacific/Honolulu)
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Ok looking at it more, Grok and Grok Build just really suck. They are about 10x less token efficient, often using 200+ tool calls in a row for what are not even big tasks where Opus would use 5-10. Their cache hit rate is worse, and two sessions got into basically unnecessary loops costing a solid quarter of the entire week. And this was on smaller tasks as I tend to use it for easier things.
gslepak · · focus · HN ↗
daquisu · · focus · HN ↗
It is the same multiplier for Sol with subscription. For Astra though the multiplier is ≈20x, so half of Sol usage.
For Claude it seems to be ≈40x too for Opus, but less for Fable (similar to Astra in GPT).
All on the most expensive plan. Previously, Grok usage escalated linearly from the $100 plan to $300 plan. That would be a really good $100 plan if it is still true.
Some sources:
1. <a href="https://x.com/kunchenguid/status/2098256018836963382" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/kunchenguid/status/2098256018836963382
2. <a href="https://x.com/stevenzhang/status/2092110386569089311" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/stevenzhang/status/2092110386569089311
3. <a href="https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/43731" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/43731
4. <a href="https://redd.it/1wciwc1" rel="nofollow">https://redd.it/1wciwc1
5. <a href="https://x.com/SemiAnalysis_/status/2064815044085318040" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/SemiAnalysis_/status/2064815044085318040
6. <a href="https://redd.it/1vx0k69" rel="nofollow">https://redd.it/1vx0k69
nwienert · · focus · HN ↗
It reset just a few hours ago and I've been running it, couldn't be more than 15 sessions none more than an hour long:
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Session usage: no model calls yet in this session.
Weekly limit: 46%
Next reset: September 27, 23:20
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I actually have to believe my account is messed up tbh, it's so bad. For reference I've ran 12 fable and some ~40 Opus sessions since reset yesterday on a CC account, at least 5x more usage by my estimate:
---Ok looking at it more, Grok and Grok Build just really suck. They are about 10x less token efficient, often using 200+ tool calls in a row for what are not even big tasks where Opus would use 5-10. Their cache hit rate is worse, and two sessions got into basically unnecessary loops costing a solid quarter of the entire week. And this was on smaller tasks as I tend to use it for easier things.
daquisu · · focus · HN ↗
I can't help much more than that, I did that research in the last few days, but I never used Grok myself.
I pay for GPT, Claude and Gemini. Last week I consumed all my quota on two of them, so I wondered which next subscription I would pay for if needed.
nwienert · · focus · HN ↗