Well when I ran out of Grok SuperHeavy subscription ($300) once and tried to use extra credits to cover half a day remaining till reset, $50 in extra credits went in two hours. Based on that, subscription definitely lasts longer; Grok subscription just about covers a week of my work (sometimes a bit extra remains unused, sometimes it runs out half a day to a day early). And as a point of comparison, it lasts for doing same tasks as 2.5-3 weekly limits of Codex on 5.6 Sol did (using xhigh on both Sol and Grok); I needed 3x$200 Codex subscriptions to cover my weekly usage.
I find I can just about get by with coding every day on a Cursor $60/mth sub with Grok fast mode disabled.
Doing pretty heavy coding work/requirements etc, but not much sub agents and no loops.
For me and what I’m doing that’s insanely good value.
I find grok build chews through my SuperGrok sub very quick - but I think that is due to it having the 500k context window which uses more credits. Cursor limits it to 256K (tho I see in today’s update for Grok 4.7 there’s now a toggle for context size).
There are two ways to subscribe, and it’s very confusing, but the best value is to get cursor ultra for $200 a month. I basically have infinite tokens with that plan, plus grok bot, which I really like
There are some users reporting it improved a lot in the last few weeks. The max sub usage for Grok is around $12,000 of API pricing now, so a 40x multiplier for the $300 plan.
It is the same multiplier for Sol with subscription. For Astra though the multiplier is ≈20x, so half of Sol usage.
For Claude it seems to be ≈40x too for Opus, but less for Fable (similar to Astra in GPT).
All on the most expensive plan. Previously, Grok usage escalated linearly from the $100 plan to $300 plan. That would be a really good $100 plan if it is still true.
Either this is untrue or my account is in some bugged state. I bought the 300 plan 3.5 weeks ago, and found it's usage about 1/10th of others, running out always the first day of usage for the whole week while CC for example would last 2-3 at higher usage.
It reset just a few hours ago and I've been running it, couldn't be more than 15 sessions none more than an hour long:
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Session usage: no model calls yet in this session.
Weekly limit: 46%
Next reset: September 27, 23:20
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I actually have to believe my account is messed up tbh, it's so bad. For reference I've ran 12 fable and some ~40 Opus sessions since reset yesterday on a CC account, at least 5x more usage by my estimate:
Current week (all models)
28% used
Resets Sep 28 at 5am (Pacific/Honolulu)
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Ok looking at it more, Grok and Grok Build just really suck. They are about 10x less token efficient, often using 200+ tool calls in a row for what are not even big tasks where Opus would use 5-10. Their cache hit rate is worse, and two sessions got into basically unnecessary loops costing a solid quarter of the entire week. And this was on smaller tasks as I tend to use it for easier things.
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It used to be good, now the limits are very underwhelming.
Normal SuperGrok barely lasts me through the week with very mild usage and no coding. The sentiment around SuperGrok Plus is also not great and I haven’t seen someone saying they’re happy with it yet.
SuperGrok Heavy is $300/mo, so you could get a full ChatGPT Pro and Claude Max 5x for that price. That’s so far out of my budget for a single provider I haven’t bothered trying it.
I still have SuperGrok through X Premium+ but will downgrade that next billing cycle
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For me and what I’m doing that’s insanely good value.
I find grok build chews through my SuperGrok sub very quick - but I think that is due to it having the 500k context window which uses more credits. Cursor limits it to 256K (tho I see in today’s update for Grok 4.7 there’s now a toggle for context size).
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It is the same multiplier for Sol with subscription. For Astra though the multiplier is ≈20x, so half of Sol usage.
For Claude it seems to be ≈40x too for Opus, but less for Fable (similar to Astra in GPT).
All on the most expensive plan. Previously, Grok usage escalated linearly from the $100 plan to $300 plan. That would be a really good $100 plan if it is still true.
Some sources:
1. <a href="https://x.com/kunchenguid/status/2098256018836963382" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/kunchenguid/status/2098256018836963382
2. <a href="https://x.com/stevenzhang/status/2092110386569089311" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/stevenzhang/status/2092110386569089311
3. <a href="https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/43731" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/43731
4. <a href="https://redd.it/1wciwc1" rel="nofollow">https://redd.it/1wciwc1
5. <a href="https://x.com/SemiAnalysis_/status/2064815044085318040" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/SemiAnalysis_/status/2064815044085318040
6. <a href="https://redd.it/1vx0k69" rel="nofollow">https://redd.it/1vx0k69
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It reset just a few hours ago and I've been running it, couldn't be more than 15 sessions none more than an hour long:
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Session usage: no model calls yet in this session.
Weekly limit: 46%
Next reset: September 27, 23:20
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I actually have to believe my account is messed up tbh, it's so bad. For reference I've ran 12 fable and some ~40 Opus sessions since reset yesterday on a CC account, at least 5x more usage by my estimate:
---Ok looking at it more, Grok and Grok Build just really suck. They are about 10x less token efficient, often using 200+ tool calls in a row for what are not even big tasks where Opus would use 5-10. Their cache hit rate is worse, and two sessions got into basically unnecessary loops costing a solid quarter of the entire week. And this was on smaller tasks as I tend to use it for easier things.
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I can't help much more than that, I did that research in the last few days, but I never used Grok myself.
I pay for GPT, Claude and Gemini. Last week I consumed all my quota on two of them, so I wondered which next subscription I would pay for if needed.
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Normal SuperGrok barely lasts me through the week with very mild usage and no coding. The sentiment around SuperGrok Plus is also not great and I haven’t seen someone saying they’re happy with it yet.
SuperGrok Heavy is $300/mo, so you could get a full ChatGPT Pro and Claude Max 5x for that price. That’s so far out of my budget for a single provider I haven’t bothered trying it.
I still have SuperGrok through X Premium+ but will downgrade that next billing cycle