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  1. toader · · focus · HN ↗
    How anyone that values democracy in the United States could support any of Elon's ventures is difficult to understand.
    1. ctrlkctrls · · focus · HN ↗
      Judging by Elon's staggering success in all of his ventures I'd say you're out of touch.
      1. thereitgoes456 · · focus · HN ↗
        He has had many failures, SolarCity and xAI and X and DOGE to name a few, but he has often bailed them out with his larger ventures.

        Even with his successes (Tesla, SpaceX) he has built them up in large part by bending levers of government to his advantage.

        1. redox99 · · focus · HN ↗
          xAI is the most profitable part of SpaceX by far.
          1. blisterpeanuts · · focus · HN ↗
            About half of SpaceX revenue is Starlink subscriptions. Starlink is the one profitable division; the rest of the company operates at a loss, including xAI.
            1. redox99 · · focus · HN ↗
              That's outdated and doesn't fully include the multiple billion per month contracts.

              Anthropic: 1.25B/month

              Google: 0.92B/month

              Unnamed customer starting in december: 1.1B/month

              Starlink monthly revenue is ~1.5B/month

              1. chris_money202 · · focus · HN ↗
                Isn't this to rent the datacenters though? That's not really long term capacity if xAI will eventually need them back.
                1. redox99 · · focus · HN ↗
                  Renting datacenters is their mission, now on earth and later in space (assuming they deliver).
                  1. chris_money202 · · focus · HN ↗
                    I don't know that's moving the goalpost, SpaceX's mission was not that originally. Some could say the original mission failed and they are pivoting, Elon will say it's a means to the end of the original mission still to save face. Some read it all as snake oil
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