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M5 Ultra Mac Studio Review

269 points · 262 comments · piotrgrabowski

  1. kokonokko1337 · · focus · HN ↗
    > "It also happens to be a Mac, with an operating system that looks nice and doesn’t suck"

    Yes Apple has some of the best hardware out there, albeit overpriced. But the software is such a hindrance and I can't take anyone that states otherwise seriously. If only it had proper Linux support (and the Asahi people do an amazing job but you can reverse-engineer only so many stuff with limited funding, and then you have to do it again for new models). MacOS is good if you just want to have a standard experience, which to be fair is most people. It's good for just setting up an LLM server I guess since the hardware is a perfect fit. I wouldn't touch it otherwise.

    1. steve1977 · · focus · HN ↗
      What exactly is missing from macOS that makes you feel the need for Linux?

      I get it on Windows systems, at least when someone wants to use Linux-type tooling. But macOS already supports pretty much all of that natively?

      1. RunSet · · focus · HN ↗
        > What exactly is missing from macOS that makes you feel the need for Linux?

        For starters, the source code.

        1. steve1977 · · focus · HN ↗
          And why would you need that to run LLMs?

          Apart from that, for the UNIX part, the source is available for quite a few components:

          <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;apple-oss-distributions" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;apple-oss-distributions

          notably also the kernel

          <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;apple-oss-distributions&#x2F;xnu" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;apple-oss-distributions&#x2F;xnu

          1. throw0101c · · focus · HN ↗
            &gt; Apart from that, for the UNIX part, the source is available for quite a few components:

            Strictly speaking, Apple can claim to ship a UNIX® operating system:

            * <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.opengroup.org&#x2F;openbrand&#x2F;register&#x2F;apple.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.opengroup.org&#x2F;openbrand&#x2F;register&#x2F;apple.htm

            * <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.opengroup.org&#x2F;openbrand&#x2F;register&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.opengroup.org&#x2F;openbrand&#x2F;register&#x2F;

            1. steve1977 · · focus · HN ↗
              Yeah for a while they used that in marketing copy actually, but it&#x27;s been a while I think.
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