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Kev: Tiny Jev-like family of decision models built on top of Qwen3.5

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  1. prodigycorp · · focus · HN ↗
    Man, I'm already burnt out on all this jev talk.

    The one thing jev has going for it is a dedicated company focused entirely on making the product good and keeping it maintained. I haven't been willing to jump on board with all these jev-shaped projects because their releases feel driven mostly by opportunism. I'm fine waiting a bit for the opportunists to shake out so we can see who is genuinely committed to bringing something valuable to the open-weight community.

    Jev is much better than the traditional ML crowd gives it credit for, but my enthusiasm hits a wall when it comes to their data policy. It is completely draconian. Whatever you feed into the system, they retain.

    The jev team needs to release a ZDR product, or their platform is dead on arrival. An open, jev-shaped model will win out solely on that basis.

    1. andriy_koval · · focus · HN ↗
      > The one thing jev has going for it is a dedicated company focused entirely on making the product good and keeping it maintained.

      by not allowing to benchmark it, they make it user-hostile, you don't know for what kind of quality you pay

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