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1. prodigycorp · 1790004466 · focus · HN ↗

   Man, I'm already burnt out on all this jev talk.

   The one thing jev has going for it is a dedicated company focused entirely on making the product good and keeping it maintained. I haven't been willing to jump on board with all these jev-shaped projects because their releases feel driven mostly by opportunism. I'm fine waiting a bit for the opportunists to shake out so we can see who is genuinely committed to bringing something valuable to the open-weight community.

   Jev is much better than the traditional ML crowd gives it credit for, but my enthusiasm hits a wall when it comes to their data policy. It is completely draconian. Whatever you feed into the system, they retain.

   The jev team needs to release a ZDR product, or their platform is dead on arrival. An open, jev-shaped model will win out solely on that basis.

   1. doublerabbit · 1790005635 · focus · HN ↗

      It's Openclaw all over again.

      1. prodigycorp · 1790006070 · focus · HN ↗

         I was enthusiastic about the release of jev much more than I was openclaw because new generative primitive are fun to play around with. But this may be the fastest I’ve ever gotten to being sick and tired of the discussion cycle around it.

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