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112 points · 134 comments · neehao

  1. bambax · · focus · HN ↗
    > "When policy is politically polarized, you need more facts," he said.

    Mmmm... It seems in the world of politics, esp. populist politics, more facts don't bring better policies. They are simply ignored, or accused of being lies pushed by the ennemies.

    > "We have all the facts on this we need. We don't need any more facts. In the land of truth, my friend, the man with one fact is the king."

    -- Linton Barwick, In The Loop (2009)

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    1. N_Lens · · focus · HN ↗
      My friend was saying that we just need to show people the facts to change their minds. I showed him a pile of scientific studies indicating that it doesn&#x27;t work. His response was &quot;I still think it&#x27;ll work&quot;!
      1. RealityVoid · · focus · HN ↗
        Hillarious, to be honest. It still leaves me wondering... what _does_ work?
        1. fhe · · focus · HN ↗
          evolution -- ppl who refuse to acknowledge reality tend not to leave many offsprings. and if they do, maybe they are adhering to a more powerful reality afterall.
          1. weatherlite · · focus · HN ↗
            That&#x27;s realy inaccurate. If anything the more religious you are the more offsprings you have. Atheist societies are below replacement levels. What makes you think fact based thinking leads to more children making?
            1. mkrecny · · focus · HN ↗
              given the unknowability of reality - &#x27;facts&#x27; in science are only hypotheses that have not yet been disproven by data - nobody knows why anything exists at all -

              a lot of weight has to be given to &#x27;what works&#x27; - what things grind up against the machinery of reality and survive over the long term? there is a &#x27;truth&#x27; to such things

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