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1. falsaberN1 · 1789859837 · focus · HN ↗

   I don't want Chrono Cross-contamination in my trigger, thanks.

   Chrono Cross is a very interesting game on its own but it's a terrible sequel that is remarkably spiteful to its senior. (The thing with FATE and Robo, the Porre thing, the fate of Crono and co., it's a terrible fanfic made canon).

   Trigger only worked because of Toriyama gathering the all-star staff (look up the interview with Torishima giving the details). Cross was out of his hands and it shows.

   1. debo_ · 1789860287 · focus · HN ↗

      I loved trigger, got to play it on release. I loved Cross even more. I played that one about 5 years after its release.

      Cross has this underlying sense of menace beneath the idyllic (and wondrous) atmosphere of the archipelago. I think it's incredible.

      Personally I don't care much about stories in games. Most of them are awful anyways. I really gravitate towards atmosphere, and Cross has that in spades.

      1. noodletheworld · 1789861551 · focus · HN ↗

         You can downvote the parent post all you like, but…

         > Personally I don't care much about stories in games

         I cant relate to this.

         Chrono trigger is a game I love because of the great story.

         If you’re playing rpgs and you don't care about the story or characters…

         I have no idea. Its like reading a book and saying you don't enjoy the story; you're what, just there for the physical motion of turning the pages?

         No idea. Chrono cross left no impression on me. I agree with the parent post.

         1. monkpit · 1789863592 · focus · HN ↗

            Why announce that you’re incapable of allowing someone to hold an opinion that doesn’t match yours?

            Would it be so wrong for someone to enjoy something in a different way than you do? Or should they be chastised for enjoying it the wrong way?

            You’re welcome to ask what brings them enjoyment, to broaden your views, instead of dismissing them.

            1. noodletheworld · 1789901164 · focus · HN ↗

               Bluntly? Because it’s a meaningless opinion.

               You like coding, but not the algorithms.

               You like books but not the story.

               This isn't “I will play it my way”; its heres a BS reason why legitimate critique can be dismissed out of hand.

               “Oh, but for me its not about of the food tastes good”

               Ok. Sure. You do You.

               …but if someone says: that meal was rubbish and tasteless, is it so outrageous to call out “but I don't care about the taste” as incomprehensible nonsense to the majority of people?

               Am I being outrageous here?

               What does the the “rp” stand for in rpg?

               You tell me.

               1. bityard · 1789915007 · focus · HN ↗

                  You can keep coming up with flawed analogies all you like, but it doesn't change the fact that a good RPG video game is a LOT more than a story.

                  Is is possible to enjoy the characters, gameplay, strategy, battle system, graphics, and music of a game while caring next to nothing at all about the story. I played a LOT of 16 and 32-bit RPGs in my day and found the stories and character dialogue in nearly all of them to be predictable to the point of cliche. There are rarely any unique plot elements to get invested in, rarely any characters who break out of their mold.

                  If you've seen one Hero's Journey, you've pretty much seen them all. But obviously you can still build a damn fine movie or video game around it.

                  (FWIW, I like coding but don't get very excited about algorithms or data structures. They are just tools to use on the way to making something useful in the real world.)

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