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I built non-autoregressive decision models with RL a year ago

1363 points · 319 comments · nandakishor_ml

  1. dcow · · focus · HN ↗
    I can understand why the author feels bitter but it still feels juvenile to me. Certainly both Jev and Laya are based on the research of countless prior papers and academics. Diogo decided to build a product out of the concept. The author didn't. Publishing research papers and model weights is probably part of the problem--it feels academic. If you look at the author's profile they focus on applying AI to healthcare. Not selling general AI type safety to AI pilled companies and devs. There's a big difference there. Whether that's good or bad you can argue all day. But for the author to expect otherwise is pretty weird. I do applaud them for not stewing too much on it and trying to do something about it, though.
    1. operaopera · · focus · HN ↗
      I believe his qualms were with the "hype" in Jev's announcement: specifically calling this kind of model a breakthrough, without crediting previous art, and keeping everything closed source.
      1. prodigycorp · · focus · HN ↗
        And how is laya previous art? The project was vibecoded and posted yesterday.

        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;NandhaKishorM&#x2F;laya&#x2F;commits&#x2F;main&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;NandhaKishorM&#x2F;laya&#x2F;commits&#x2F;main&#x2F;

        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;huggingface.co&#x2F;convaiinnovations&#x2F;laya&#x2F;commits&#x2F;main" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;huggingface.co&#x2F;convaiinnovations&#x2F;laya&#x2F;commits&#x2F;main

        1. nandakishor_ml · · focus · HN ↗
          The paper is one year old. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2510.01237" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2510.01237 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pypi.org&#x2F;project&#x2F;hallunox&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pypi.org&#x2F;project&#x2F;hallunox&#x2F;
          1. dcow · · focus · HN ↗

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            1. jeremyjh · · focus · HN ↗
              Generally they do credit the papers and&#x2F;or people who developed the theory behind their product.
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