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US troop deaths during Iran war exceed Pentagon count by at least four

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  1. bix6 · · focus · HN ↗
    And all the republicans will still vote red for the lying, cheating, grifting man.

    All my life I have had faith in the governments reports and statistics for the most part. This admin has torn everything down and for what?

    1. atmavatar · · focus · HN ↗
      For a sizable fraction of people, when the facts conflict with their biases, they choose to reject the facts and double-down on their biases.
      1. lokar · · focus · HN ↗
        Racism is a very powerful belief system.
        1. shermantanktop · · focus · HN ↗
          -isms of all kind are powerful. But the most powerful are those that give the believer a distant group of people for them to blame for all their troubles, which are often self-inflicted.
          1. anonymous_user9 · · focus · HN ↗
            Are you saying that calling people racist is the worst bigotry?
            1. zmgsabst · · focus · HN ↗

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              1. bix6 · · focus · HN ↗
                Pretty fascinating dem vs rep split. Dems say everyone experiences racism. Reps say white people experience it.

                <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pewresearch.org&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2025&#x2F;05&#x2F;20&#x2F;views-of-how-much-discrimination-racial-and-ethnic-groups-in-the-u-s-face&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pewresearch.org&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2025&#x2F;05&#x2F;20&#x2F;views-of-how...

                1. zmgsabst · · focus · HN ↗
                  We must be reading different charts — the only one I can see has consistent numbers among Republicans (50%) but high numbers for Democrats (90%) except for Whites (20%).

                  So your characterization is completely wrong: Republicans mildly think everybody does, while Democrats deny white people do.

                  1. bix6 · · focus · HN ↗
                    We must be on different planets since America and its institutions are majority white.

                    &gt; 94% of Democrats say Black people face at least some discrimination, compared with 54% of Republicans. 90% of Democrats say the same about Hispanic people, compared with 54% of Republicans. 83% of Democrats say Asian people face widespread discrimination, versus 51% of Republicans. By contrast, Republicans are far more likely than Democrats to say that White people face at least some discrimination (55% vs. 21%).

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              3. solid_fuel · · focus · HN ↗
                &gt; False accusations of racism (and similar moral slander) is the first step in dehumanizing an outgroup.

                Accurately describing the racism that motivates the politics and actions of a group is the first step in addressing the way they dehumanize their opponents.

            2. maxerickson · · focus · HN ↗
              More likely something like describing Trumpism.
            3. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
              no they&#x27;re agreeing racism is bad
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