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1. righthand · 1789756315 · focus · HN ↗

   So carry a separate device while traveling. Or wipe your phone, then restore after the border. This is just going to lead to a service that does this for you and the overreaching feds won’t be able to do anything about it.

   And as far as I can tell you still don’t have to give them your pin code.

   1. peezd · 1789758908 · focus · HN ↗

      It's been somewhat established that having a wiped or basic phone is in itself sus and reason for them to investigate you further.

      1. iamnothere · 1789760202 · focus · HN ↗

         They can investigate all they want, they can even detain you briefly, but if you are a citizen and there’s no evidence of a crime then they have to let you in.

         1. CamperBob2 · 1789762180 · focus · HN ↗

            They have more guns than you do, and these days, most of the judges are blindly and shamelessly on their side. They don't "have" to do jack.

            1. iamnothere · 1789763399 · focus · HN ↗

               You’re fearmongering. Despite what some may say, it’s not Nazi Germany. Rule of law still has sway.

               Find me caselaw where a “basic” phone was used as valid evidence. Or where the phone was already empty when someone began to approach the border.

               1. CamperBob2 · 1789773134 · focus · HN ↗

                  Rule of law still has sway.

                  Get back to me once the Good and Pretti homicides in Minneapolis have been prosecuted.

                  1. iamnothere · 1789783709 · focus · HN ↗

                     I said that it still has sway, not that it’s perfect. Your position basically amounts to “hide in bed and hope they don’t come for you”.

                     1. CamperBob2 · 1789788673 · focus · HN ↗

                        My position is that what happened to them could happen to you or me.

                        You don't seem concerned, though. So that's good. I guess.

                        1. otterley · 1789846350 · focus · HN ↗

                           The question isn’t whether something is merely possible. You could get struck by a moving ambulance tomorrow.

                           It’s about how likely something is.

                           1. CamperBob2 · 1790009403 · focus · HN ↗

                              Getting more likely every year.

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