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1. jacquesm · 1789726316 · focus · HN ↗

   It's the robbery of all of our culture to sell it back to us at a mark-up. Crimes this large are crimes against humanity. So many people whose life's work got appropriated without consideration, compensation or consent it is baffling.

   It is said that at the heart of every great fortune there is a great crime, so it should be no surprise that the most valuable companies on the planet will most likely result from this crime. And given that justice can be bought by those with the most money you can forget about anything coming of this.

   1. godwinson__4-8 · 1789731119 · focus · HN ↗

      Our "culture" has long been the province of corporations. In prior epochs it was still the product of patronage and power.

      At least with LLMs we can glimpse an escape route to that which generations of humans have strived for - a world in which the labor required of each human to lead a flourishing life approaches zero.

      Instead of fixating on a remedy that seeks to criminalize AI, maybe focus on the relatively rather achievable goal of redistributing LLM gains. Would that not be the most desirable justice? What is your alternative, and would you foreclose the future in the name of a past that never really existed in the first place?

      1. jacquesm · 1789731971 · focus · HN ↗

         > At least with LLMs we can glimpse an escape route to that which generations of humans have strived for - a world in which the labor required of each human to lead a flourishing life approaches zero.

         Let me fix that for you: A world in the the value of the labor of each human approaches zero.

         1. echelon · 1789733385 · focus · HN ↗

            The value will tend towards infinity [1] because we can keep building more data centers. This will allow us to apply tokens to solving every problem we can conceive.

            The cost will tend towards zero because competition is intense and there appear to be zero moats and ample improvements from every direction.

            If these systems have low costs, that means they will be usable by the broad population and that their utility will be widely accessible.

            Industrialization led to iPhone, PlayStation, Spotify, and Waymo.

            AI will lead to personal chefs, contractors, assistants, drivers, tutors, climbing partners, ...

            AI will lead to people making their own PlayStation games, their own music and streaming services (I already have), their own custom smartphones (a future personal project - vibe hardware). And your robot will drive you cross country on vacation while you sleep in the car.

            [1] Not actually infinity because earth [2] has finite resources, but the S-curve will look like it for awhile.

            [2] Until the robots leave earth, anyway

            1. idbnstra · 1789739042 · focus · HN ↗

               [2] this is why we need georgism, i.e. shifting taxes to finite resources like land, minerals, etc.

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