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1. isodev · 1789654535 · focus · HN ↗

   Good. The EU is an economic and political union so facilitating trade and movement between political allies seems only natural.

   1. mrtksn · 1789655595 · focus · HN ↗

      Apparently EU and Canada did well with the branding as this is entirely new concept that no one knows what it means but gives you warm and fuzzy feelings inside, isn't it?

      Anyway, I would love it if Canada joins the free movement zone and Schengen eventually however despite not knowing what is this "associate member" thing is sounds like a stretch. Imagine though, how cool would be to travel to between America and Europe without your passport, like a domestic flight.

      I'm really not fan of the trend to devide this rock in space into zones where you need a reason and permission based on that reason to travel. Can't be happier that there's a progress towards making the world a friendlier place.

      1. danmaz74 · 1789656293 · focus · HN ↗

         Schengen looks like a stretch, considering the geographic situation, but free movement is achievable, if both want it.

         1. hylaride · 1789660306 · focus · HN ↗

            Schengen is pretty strict in that it's a full people/money/goods zone all together. It'd require Canada pretty much all going in on EU laws.

            Much more likely is looser employment visas and maybe allowing Canadians have an easier time moving for things like retirement, etc. I'm not holding my breath, though.

            1. danmaz74 · 1789669045 · focus · HN ↗

               This is pretty a common misconception. Schengen area only refers to the fact that there are no border checks between two countries which are in that area - it's just like an internal movement. This applies to anybody, so for example if a Canadian enters the Schengen area, they can move to any other country within that area without checks and without requiring an additional visa.

               What you're thinking about is the "single market" - which, even if the name could deceive, also applies to people, including the right to go work anywhere within the single market for citizens of single market countries. Which is what many brits always hated, as they wanted single market for services and goods, but not for people.

               Single market doesn't imply Schengen though - eg I as an EU citizen have the right to move to Ireland for work, but I still need to go through border checks as Ireland is outside of Schengen (because they have free movement with NI).

               1. memsom · 1789999095 · focus · HN ↗

                  And the UK in general. I went to Dublin a few years back now, and I had my passport checked as I entered Ireland, but not before I got on the plane and not as I left not when I got back to Gatwick.. in fact I walked off the plane through the baggage claim and back out on to the airport and no one asked me for anything. I think if I'd travelled by ferry, I might not have needed a passport at all.

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