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The Return of Sail Power: Cargo Ships Are Turning Back to the Wind

193 points · 136 comments · gumby

  1. WalterBright · · focus · HN ↗
    This seems to happen once every 20 years.
    1. sien · · focus · HN ↗
      Yep. They alternate decades with the 'Airships are returning for cargo' groups.
      1. lukeify · · focus · HN ↗
        I'd be down for a future of awesome looking ships and giant zeppelins gracing the sky.
        1. WalterBright · · focus · HN ↗
          I'd love to fly in a Zeppelin, too, but the problem is they are very vulnerable to the weather.
          1. ThrustVectoring · · focus · HN ↗
            AIUI the problem is the economics are pretty unfavorable for smaller-scale prototypes due to square-cube issues (drag and thus fuel costs is proportional to cross-sectional area, lift and thus cargo capacity is proportional to volume). You'd need a very big airship to get a competitive economic niche between sea and traditional air freight, where you're faster and more flexible than sea transport and cheaper than traditional air freight.
            1. econ · · focus · HN ↗
              There is another niche if you make them several miles long and width. Then can use more conventional construction materials like a concrete shell. (We are of course not ready for that)
              1. foobarian · · focus · HN ↗
                In that case they should have those giant propellers that seem to spin at a few rotations per minute
                1. econ · · focus · HN ↗
                  We should first build the floating cities. Some old ships welded together surrounded by styrofoam in nets with mud on top and Mangroves, lots of Mangroves... Neptune's park.
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