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Australia says it could follow Canada in forging deeper ties with EU

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  1. mindwok · · focus · HN ↗
    As an Australian, I have noticed a shift personally in feeling like I identify more with "European" culture, compared to 10 years ago I felt like we were the 51st state and I felt very close with the US.

    This seems to be shared by others, I remember reading there was a survey that asked Australians who they felt our closest international friend was. The US was the top answer for over a decade, having stolen the crown from the UK I think in the late 90s or something. Recently though, it switched to New Zealand.

    1. mrcwinn · · focus · HN ↗
      As an American, I hope you can identify strongly as an Australian. Why bother telling yourself you’re something of a European?

      In any case, I hope countries form ties with Europe. Europe needs be economically stronger than it is. Better for the world, so long as they can slow their tendencies toward government control and censorship.

      1. koonsolo · · focus · HN ↗
        Censorship? Do you mean the fact that we hold platforms accountable if they post hate speech or misinformation, or is this something else?
        1. DaSHacka · · focus · HN ↗
          > Censorship? You mean when we censor people for speech we don't like?

          uh, yeah.

          1. koonsolo · · focus · HN ↗
            Speech inciting hatred, violence, or plain misinformation is harmful and so should be illegal or restricted.
            1. DaSHacka · · focus · HN ↗
              Cool idea, feel free to run your police state of a country that way.

              I'll continue enjoying my 1st and 2nd amendments though.

              1. koonsolo · · focus · HN ↗
                I like the small % of nutcases in my country. We also consider disinformation a national security threat. That way a foreign adversary cannot push the public into voting for an incompetent, ignorant and arrogant criminal narcissist. I don't want my country to turn into an idiocracy.

                And concerning your 2nd amendment, I also own guns. The difference is that only sane, non-violent people can have guns in my country, and crazy people not. You know, crazy people that would take their guns to schools and start shooting.

                Enjoy your freedom!

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