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A warning about 'model welfare'

242 points · 701 comments · andsoitis

  1. moomin · · focus · HN ↗
    Look, I do not have a scooby if current AI models are conscious and I strongly suspect it’s a meaningless question, but sooner or later we will need to address whether or not a certain thing is or isn’t a person, and we’d better not screw it up as badly as the Founding Fathers.
    1. OedipusRex · · focus · HN ↗
      Citizens United proves we won't do any better this time around.
      1. orangecat · · focus · HN ↗
        Citizens United was 100% correct. No, the government should not be able to throw you in prison because you used money to publish a book criticizing the government.
        1. appplication · · focus · HN ↗
          Really, 100% correct? Your premise isn’t wrong, but the practical reality of the ruling (without further nuance) has been fairly catastrophic for democracy, in that it completely sidesteps campaign finance limits, which exist for a very good reason.
          1. orangecat · · focus · HN ↗
            the practical reality of the ruling (without further nuance) has been fairly catastrophic for democracy

            How so? If the answer is "Trump" I certainly won't disagree on the catastrophic part, but he didn't get elected because of money; in all three elections his campaign was substantially outspent by his opponents.

            1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
              Are we including in this figure corporations like Facebook intentionally boosting pro-Trump content?
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