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1. noir_lord · 1789555669 · focus · HN ↗

   Good, if the middle power democracies don't align/work together they are going to get torn apart in the struggle between the US and China.

   1. wewewedxfgdf · 1789558357 · focus · HN ↗

      Errrrr...... this has nothing to do with the struggle between USA and China.

      It is 100% about Trump.

      1. padjo · 1789561522 · focus · HN ↗

         This has been brewing since George W Bush. Obama made a valiant attempt at normalising relations with Europe but I don't think any future US president has any hope of reversing this now.

         1. mschuster91 · 1789562461 · focus · HN ↗

            Europe was skeptical ever since 'nam and at the latest Bush Sr's Iraq adventure.

            1. padjo · 1789579975 · focus · HN ↗

               Nah, Europe was a happy participant in Iraq 1. The trend from that to Iraq 2 to whatever the hell they're doing in Iran now is really clear.

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