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EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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noir_lord · 1789555669 · focus · HN ↗
Good, if the middle power democracies don't align/work together they are going to get torn apart in the struggle between the US and China.
1. wewewedxfgdf · 1789558357 · focus · HN ↗
  Errrrr...... this has nothing to do with the struggle between USA and China.
  It is 100% about Trump.
  1. noir_lord · 1789558937 · focus · HN ↗
    Trump is a symptom not the disease, when he's gone the people who supported him and voted for him still exist and another Trump-like figure is almost inevitable given they've basically ploughed and planted that field to grow the next one and who's to say NeoTrump isn't going to be smarter.
    The other democracies can no longer count on the US as a stable ally the way we have in the past (whether that trust was misplaced is a matter of perspective).
    Simply put, you did it twice, We can't rely on them not doing it again.
    dfxm12 · 1789564153 · focus · HN ↗
    It doesn't need to be a trump like figure. I would temper expectations that anything for Europe or Canada goes back to some status quo. It's more likely for Canada, but the US has changes domestically and with regards to other foreign nations in ways that necessitate different foreign relations even with close allies.
    We can look at Biden. He's not a trump like figure by any stretch. He decided to continue some of Trump's foreign policy.

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