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EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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noir_lord · 1789555669 · focus · HN ↗
Good, if the middle power democracies don't align/work together they are going to get torn apart in the struggle between the US and China.
1. wewewedxfgdf · 1789558357 · focus · HN ↗
  Errrrr...... this has nothing to do with the struggle between USA and China.
  It is 100% about Trump.
  1. noir_lord · 1789558937 · focus · HN ↗
    Trump is a symptom not the disease, when he's gone the people who supported him and voted for him still exist and another Trump-like figure is almost inevitable given they've basically ploughed and planted that field to grow the next one and who's to say NeoTrump isn't going to be smarter.
    The other democracies can no longer count on the US as a stable ally the way we have in the past (whether that trust was misplaced is a matter of perspective).
    Simply put, you did it twice, We can't rely on them not doing it again.
    petilon · 1789562749 · focus · HN ↗
    When Hitler was removed did another Hitler variant take control of Germany? No, Germany recovered from that dark period. The same will happen in the US. We will recover from this dark period. The comparison to Hitler is not baseless, btw. His own vice president once called Trump America's Hitler.
    b112 · 1789563460 · focus · HN ↗
    If you mean after facing bitter defeat, being broken into two nations, being controlled directly by foreign powers for years (and on one side decades), paying reparations, its upper political class and collaborators seized, jailed, trialed, and the free side being afraid of annexation by Russia, having nazism and any artifacts outlawed, then yes.
    Yes, after all and more, no future Hitler has yet emerged.
    Unless you see these things happening soon, then not really a good comparison.

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