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EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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  1. noir_lord · · focus · HN ↗
    Good, if the middle power democracies don't align/work together they are going to get torn apart in the struggle between the US and China.
    1. dosisking · · focus · HN ↗
      There is no struggle, China has already won.
      1. baxtr · · focus · HN ↗
        In what way has "China already won"?
        1. dosisking · · focus · HN ↗
          > In what way has "China already won"?

          The US has depleted their missile stockpile and can no longer defend anybody. Countries in the Middle East are moving away from the US and forming their own alliances. Taiwan knows that the US cannot do anything to help them. South Korea also knows. The US has weaponized the US Dollar, forcing countries out of the SWIFT system if they don't do what they are told. As a result, the CHIPS system has become the alternative. China understands better how the economy works, with the Belt and Road Initiative. The US government doesn't understand how the economy works, and is run by a bunch of complete m orons.

          1. weatherlite · · focus · HN ↗
            > China understands better how the economy works,

            Many people avoid Chinese stocks like the plague because the system is still half communist and as a foreign investor you get some paper in a company on Cayman Island instead of real direct ownership. That keeps me from buying their stocks and I'm not the only one.

            1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
              China understanding the economy appears to include them understanding that an economy consists of producing and trading goods and services, not a cancerous stock market. You can't invest in their stocks because that would be bad for their economy.
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