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EU chief opens door for Canada to become 'associate member'

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  1. noir_lord · · focus · HN ↗
    Good, if the middle power democracies don't align/work together they are going to get torn apart in the struggle between the US and China.
    1. wewewedxfgdf · · focus · HN ↗
      Errrrr...... this has nothing to do with the struggle between USA and China.

      It is 100% about Trump.

      1. noir_lord · · focus · HN ↗
        Trump is a symptom not the disease, when he's gone the people who supported him and voted for him still exist and another Trump-like figure is almost inevitable given they've basically ploughed and planted that field to grow the next one and who's to say NeoTrump isn't going to be smarter.

        The other democracies can no longer count on the US as a stable ally the way we have in the past (whether that trust was misplaced is a matter of perspective).

        Simply put, you did it twice, We can't rely on them not doing it again.

        1. LeBit · · focus · HN ↗
          That and nobody believes that if the Democrats get back in the driver’s seat that they will correct all the disgusting things Trump did.

          Americans voted for that clown regime twice.

          They cannot and should not be trusted anymore.

          1. mettamage · · focus · HN ↗
            IMO it’s the 2 party system in the US that make it more vulnerable for things like this to happen
            1. pvaldes · · focus · HN ↗
              US biggest existential crisis is the fact that the opposition is always a monopoly.

              So either you have a massive win, or a party will block the other forever out of spite, nothing can be accomplished and no mistake can be fixed. With more opposition groups the situation would change for good ("You don't want to make a deal with me, I will ask the third and fourth parties. The first team doing a reasonable move gets the prize").

            2. sethammons · · focus · HN ↗
              I'm in favor of Rank Choice Voting for this reason. Our system makes 3rd party votes hard or impossible, so instead of voting for who you like, you have to vote for who you dislike the least.

              Let people vote for who they like the most without fear of their vote bolstering a candidate they really don't like. We should start exposing kids to RCV in schools. Now. It needs to not be "weird" or "hard" or propagandized as "not fair." Not fair is not being able to vote for your favorite person.

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