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Nearly 200 people under observation after Irkutsk lab worker dies from plague

222 points · 202 comments · ericmay

  1. robmusial · · focus · HN ↗
    I literally just finished Annie Jacobsen's book 'Biological War: A Scenario' last week where the central plot point is an accidental release of modified form of pneumonic plague from a lab in Siberia. Very coincidental timing, especially since it made me wonder how often labs like these have accidents and we never hear about them because it is cleaned up without issue.
    1. petcat · · focus · HN ↗
      > made me wonder how often labs like these have accidents and we never hear about them because it is cleaned up without issue.

      Did anyone ever confirm if the lab in Wuhan China was the originator of COVID? I remember that was a rumor but never heard if there was anything to it.

      1. alexnewman · · focus · HN ↗
        I get downvoted every time I say this but the evidence doesn’t even prove it started in wuhan, or even China. It could of easily been brought here by the military games that happened before that
        1. theoreticalmal · · focus · HN ↗
          Do you have any thoughts as to why the FBI disagrees with your perspective?

          <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;world-us-canada-64806903" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;world-us-canada-64806903

          1. toast0 · · focus · HN ↗
            Is the US FBI a credible investigator for something like this?

            a) I don&#x27;t know that they have the right skills to track down patient zero of a disease.

            b) They certainly don&#x27;t have jurisdiction to do such an investigation in a foreign country, unless invited, and there&#x27;s no way they were invited.

            I strongly doubt we&#x27;ll ever see a good answer on this, unless we get very lucky and some random research sample is looked at later that shows detection months earlier in a different location or if the Chinese did a good investigation and kept it quiet, but it leaks in a couple decades.

            A timely and thorough investigation might have been able to determine an origin, but the US FBI certainly didn&#x27;t do one.

            1. junofan · · focus · HN ↗
              The US can just declare extraterritorial jurisdiction. We do it for bioweapons. Uncle Sam doesn’t need an invite.

              IIRC one of the FBI guys who investigated anthrax was like “yeah, it’s pretty obvious looking at what that lab was up to.”

              1. ahtihn · · focus · HN ↗
                Anyone can declare anything.

                You think China just lets US law enforcement do investigations on their territory without their consent??

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