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1. boredatoms · 1791167041 · focus · HN ↗

   Time to go back to NA engines, the hybrids don't give the rock concert wall of sound

   1. penskymaterial · 1791174065 · focus · HN ↗

      I don't follow motorsports very closely, sorry, but racing hybrids sounds extremely queer.

      They might as well not do it at all.

      You cannot greenwash auto racing as "sustainable" when by its very nature it need not exist. It's done for sport.

      It's like people who hunt exotic animals agreeing to put suppressors on their rifles as if that somehow makes it more acceptable.

      1. RantyDave · 1791174810 · focus · HN ↗

         In theory: it's not greenwashing, it's so that the humungous amounts of resources they put into developing F1 engines are not completely wasted ... so that some of the tech can "trickle down" to road car engines. Hence, the interest in hybrids. At least they get to learn how to charge a battery really, really fast.

         In practice, of course, it's all going to go a bit south when road cars go to 90% EV. There is already a "formula E", of course.

      2. klausa · 1791174975 · focus · HN ↗

         There are very obvious performance benefits to running a hybrid.

         1. rozap · 1791175407 · focus · HN ↗

            I think you're right, but I do wish the formula was more open ended. The super strict regs were supposed to prevent runaway costs, but now we have the cost cap. So like, why not institute a cost cap for the pu manufacturers and let them go nuts.

            1. klausa · 1791175853 · focus · HN ↗

               The PU development is under a separate cost cap.
      3. xtracto · 1791176181 · focus · HN ↗

         The worst thing is that, whatever they "save" in the hybrid part, is offsetted by the amount of pollution of flying all people and machines around the world.

         Someone on reddit showed a graph comparing both, and it's just ridiculous.

         I'm an avid F1 fan since 1990s, and think hybrid engines is the wrong way to do it.

         1. Skunkleton · 1791180094 · focus · HN ↗

            The hybrid power train isn't about carbon emissions at the race, its about advancing lower carbon technology.

            That said, its still dumb since consumer cars are moving on from hybrids it seems.

         2. coderenegade · 1791181325 · focus · HN ↗

            It's not just about being environmentally friendly; hybrid engines have fairly significant performance advantages over non-hybrid engines.
      4. coderenegade · 1791178192 · focus · HN ↗

         F1 couldn't call themselves the pinnacle of motorsports if they moved away from hybrid engines. The performance advantages are fairly staggering.

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