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1. nonethewiser · 1791165422 · focus · HN ↗

   Pretty crazy. I think we’re already very numb to AI. Can you imagine seeing something like this pop up 3 years ago? Youd have been dumbfounded and it would have been major news.

   1. Gigachad · 1791165812 · focus · HN ↗

      I think there's some fatigue with all the brand new projects that have a skeleton of a project up that isn't really usable yet, where the original prompter doesn't bother to finish it off when it gets too hard. There's a lot of noise that doesn't translate to results so far.

      I think this project is interesting, but it's more a wait and see what happens kind of thing.

   2. brazukadev · 1791165993 · focus · HN ↗

      "Built the hard way.

      Every Crafting App is written from scratch in Rust and held to the same rules."

      Yes. We are numb to AI (slop). Maybe if this project is still being developed in a year people might take it seriously.

      1. doc_ick · 1791166669 · focus · HN ↗

         Agreed. It’s hard to tell what apps will “survive” other then making a splash, especially since there is a constant reliance on llms with fluctuating costs and seemingly an over reliance on rust being the ideal language for everything.
   3. jenniferhooley · 1791168103 · focus · HN ↗

      Have you tried the apps, or have any experience with Photoshop (complex photo or art or video projects)?

      Just curious, because I've worked within design/film etc. for years.

      I did open the PhotoCraft and loaded a few of my simpler layout projects. And literally nothing works.

      Let's see:

      1. Tried to select text, like the selector is off from the cursor.

      2. Tried to edit text, takes like 3 seconds to drag the slider for size, nothing happens (text doesn't change size).

      3. Absolutely everything is insanely laggy: selecting, switching, etc.

      4. Can't seem to expand/collapse folders.

      5. Everything shows shortcut keys - shortcut keys don't do anything.

      6. Tried to move something, it kind of got frozen for a while. Eventually disappeared I think?

      7. Clicked something and it auto selected a side panel (don't know why), hid the other panel, can't stretch, collapse the panels or get it back...

      This is actual joke software, I'm confused why you are impressed?

      1. nicknow · 1791173480 · focus · HN ↗

         Not surprised, I was super suspicious when I saw this post. Like I bet the underlying image/layout manipulation isn’t that technically challenging at this point, but there is just so much that goes into every single operation from the UI to validations to operation that even with the best use of AI I doubt you could replicate any of the image/video products without several months to a years worth of dedicated effort.

         1. usef- · 1791180888 · focus · HN ↗

            Yes, I would have believed it more if they were targeting one app. But doing all seven at once immediately made me think they likely had no level of care at all (or a giant team?). Today's AI can be impressive but it's not up to adobe-scale apps without a lot of attention and feedback, if you have standards at all. There's a huge surface area to polish in just one of these apps.

            I checked GitHub and it has only two committers and four weeks effort: One person +550k lines, another +3k lines.

      2. OhSoHumble · 1791178906 · focus · HN ↗

         I didn't even bother downloading any of it to try it out - this is kind of what I expected. Maybe after a massive amount of token spend it'll be somewhat functional?
      3. rock_artist · 1791179361 · focus · HN ↗

         As many companies, we've started to use AI on a daily-basis. Yet, it didn't cut the need for testing (both automated and manual) and reviewing.

         Now here we see a fully blown suite which is already alarming for basic testability.

         Also, we had several apps targeting directly at Adobe in the past.

         * Blackmagic DaVinci is the biggest, and it also bought several companies to start fusing a one-stop solution.

         * Affinity also started with single app that got attention before being swallowed into Canva.

         Leaving compatibility and ui-workflow (which is important to existing users), It's much more sane to start and focus on a single app instead of a fully blown package.

         From Adobe/Creative Cloud users, I do know Acrobat Pro is one of the problematic apps they have in terms (it freezes, guess a lot of legacy code, etc). And yet, even where there is some competition on PDF editors, Acrobat is still strong also due to UX and features.

      4. sinuhe69 · 1791181701 · focus · HN ↗

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         1. alightsoul · 1791183186 · focus · HN ↗

            Which clone?

            1. tonyedgecombe · 1791189964 · focus · HN ↗

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      5. pavlov · 1791183041 · focus · HN ↗

         In the AI era nobody has time to use software, they just ask AI to evaluate the app that AI built…

         A house of mirrors.

      6. alightsoul · 1791183080 · focus · HN ↗

         The author has said this is very early stage and from what I can see this has only existed for a week

         1. slopinthebag · 1791184715 · focus · HN ↗

            three days ago he said he one-shotted the entirety of photoshop. he's been promoting this all over reddit. seems odd to then say it's "very early stage"
   4. benterix · 1791190659 · focus · HN ↗

      > I think we’re already very numb to AI.

      Yeah, I got totally numb to AI slop. I looked at it and thought, this is surely so broken that nothing works. Came for the comments and the folks who actually had the time to invest in trying it out confirm that nothing works.

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