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1. _pdp_ · 1791151663 · focus · HN ↗

   I don't understand why you would want to remove well-balanced and relatively small local-inference models that ship with every mac.

   Sure, not frontier levels but fine for basic tasks and they are off-the-cloud.

   1. dawnerd · 1791163572 · focus · HN ↗

      I don’t know why pro AI people have such a hard time understanding consent.

      1. senordevnyc · 1791165931 · focus · HN ↗

         Did you consent to every other feature of macOS, the many thousands of them?

         This has nothing to do with consent. A product you use is going in a different direction than your personal preference. Nothing new here.

         1. saghm · 1791166379 · focus · HN ↗

            Intentionally eliminating a choice that they used to provide that many people would still like the ability to choose is not a new phenomenon, you're correct. That doesn't make it any less user hostile when it happens though, and I think plenty of people don't think "well plenty of other sucky things happen in similar ways" to be a good reason not to be upset when a new unnecessary sucky thing happens.
      2. dwaite · 1791175002 · focus · HN ↗

         What is the consent line being drawn here? From handwriting recognition and mail filtering from back in 2002, face detection in iPhoto back in 2009, text to speech and Siri, dictation, NLP, text to speech, the vision framework, and Core ML are all examples of AI/ML tech that have shipped at some point standard on new Macs long before Golden Gate.

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