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Blindsight (Watts Novel)

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  1. Verdex · · focus · HN ↗
    The universe, plot, and characters are all aggressively atheistic[1]. Meanwhile the prose is heavily infused with Christian religious language, references, and allusions.

    Consequently, I'm not really sure who the book is for. I don't know any Christians who like atheistic hard scifi (although, I exist so there must be others). And I don't know many people into hard scifi who really care for the religious imagery.

    Personally, I find the experience to be unique, so I think it's worth it if you can get into it.

    Besides that (and to spoil the point of the book) the biggest flaw is that the author doesnt seem to trust the reader to get the point, which is that consciousness is an unnecessary (and detrimental) evolutionary dead end. Real intelligence is totally orthogonal.

    As a software engineer who has seen very intelligent systems with no more consciousness than a paperclip for decades, I got on board with the premise as soon as it showed up. But then I kind of had to wade through case study after case study highlighting the idea.

    [1] - this isnt atheism that's aggressive, but rather a universe where there's no doubt that there is no god with all of the consequences thereof.

    1. ceejayoz · · focus · HN ↗
      > And I don't know many people into hard scifi who really care for the religious imagery.

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hyperion_(Simmons_novel)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hyperion_(Simmons_novel) is a massive classic and is full of that stuff. The Matrix has The One die and be resurrected as a godlike glowing being.

      Most atheists&#x2F;Christians aren&#x27;t as rigid as you imagine.

      &gt; a universe where there&#x27;s no doubt that there is no god

      The vast majority of scifi (and other genres) doesn&#x27;t care or take a position either way. Nothing in Blindsight says &quot;there can&#x27;t be a God&quot;; it has nothing to do with that.

      1. Barrin92 · · focus · HN ↗
        &gt;Most atheists&#x2F;Christians aren&#x27;t as rigid as you imagine

        True in a lot of cases but Simmons might not be the best example because he took such a bona fide ideological dive off a cliff later in life it even re-contextualizes the Hyperion books

    2. krapp · · focus · HN ↗
      For better or worse Christianity is the shorthand language of Western culture since so much of art philosophy and media draw from it. Plenty of non-religious (and even irreligious) works employ it for symbolism or metaphor, or like Hideaki Anno putting Christian symbolism all over Evangelion, just for the aesthetic.
    3. ACCount39 · · focus · HN ↗
      It&#x27;s the same reason why Evangelion uses a lot of Christian imagery.

      Religion aside, the imagery is undeniably cool. It goes hard.

      No other reason is required.

    4. gcanyon · · focus · HN ↗
      &gt; a universe where there&#x27;s no doubt that there is no god

      Do you mean that the universe itself provides clear, incontrovertible evidence there is no god? Or do you simply mean that in the universe portrayed, none of the people happen to have any doubt about the non-existence of god?

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