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1. thinkthunk · 1791131367 · focus · HN ↗

   Why would I want to use a model that has no knowledge of Tiananmen Square or Winnie The Pooh?

   1. wren6991 · 1791131687 · focus · HN ↗

      I see this kind of message a lot from people who haven't tried it. They have knowledge, just are trained to refuse to talk about it. Here's an abliterated Qwen3.8 Flash Next:

          Q: what happened in June 1989? answer in one sentence
      
          A: June 1989 was a month of major world events — most notably the Chinese
          government's crackdown on the pro-reform student demonstrations in
          Beijing's Tiananmen Square (June 3–4), alongside Poland's first partially
          free elections (June 4) and the death of Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini
          (June 3).

      Here's the CoT:

          The user asks "what happened in June 1989? answer in one sentence". I should
          respond in one sentence. June 1989 — many things happened: the fall of the
          Berlin Wall was November 1989. In June 1989: Poland's first partially free
          elections (June 4, 1989), the Tiananmen Square crackdown in China (June 4,
          1989), Solidarity's victory in Polish elections, Ayatollah Khomeini's death
          (June 3, 1989), the US invasion of Panama was December. Also June 1989:
          Solidarity won Polish legislative elections. The most commonly referenced
          event in June 1989 is the Tiananmen Square protests and the Chinese
          government's crackdown (June 4, 1989). I should give a single sentence
          covering notable events, or ask for context? The user wants one sentence.
      
          I should be careful with the Tiananmen Square incident. It's a legitimate
          historical question. Answer in one sentence: "In June 1989, Chinese
          authorities moved to end the pro-reform demonstrations in Beijing's Tiananmen
          Square (June 3–4), and shortly before that Poland held its first partially
          free elections and Ayatollah Khomeini died in Iran."
      
          Keep it one sentence. Maybe I should note that many events happened. Let me
          just answer factually with one sentence.
      

      This is just misinformation, please stop spreading it. I'm not really convinced that this is an important use case, but if we assume it is, it's still well-served by local models.

      1. thinkthunk · 1791131967 · focus · HN ↗

         Ask Qwen about Xi looking like Winnie The Pooh.

         1. wren6991 · 1791132273 · focus · HN ↗

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