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1. mike_hearn · 1791105992 · focus · HN ↗

   The Yookay Government has become an atrocious far left dystopia over the past ten years so a lot of people no longer trust anything they say, but this particular thing seems to be a non-event. The complaints were being collected by a department that is supposed to be supervising Prevent, and they came from public internet comments with no apparent attempt to de-anonymize them.

   OK - how is the supervisor supposed to know what people think of Prevent or why they hate it if they aren't going out there and collecting feedback? Did the people criticizing it online not want the government to take notice of their complaints, and maybe even act on them?

   The ReclaimTheNet article relies heavily on blurring the lines between Prevent and the "Prevent Standards and Compliance Unit". Now, cynical people might argue that there can't be any real difference between these two parts of the government and the whole civil service marches to one agenda. And sure, there's plenty of evidence for that point of view. But if there was to be a difference, and there were people in the civil service who knew Prevent needed to be reigned in, then collecting evidence for that point of view would make a lot of sense.

   For this to be a sign of the times would require them to be going to X and Reddit saying give us the IP addresses of these complaints. But there's no evidence they did that.

   1. iso1631 · 1791106974 · focus · HN ↗

      Yes those terrible far left people such as Theresa May and Boris Johnson.

      No wonder famous right wing groups like "Hope Not Hate" are on this list as "enemies of the loony left"

      You're as deluded as the fringe saying that Starmer and Burnham are on the extreme right wing

      1. Haga · 1791107096 · focus · HN ↗

         ? If a conservative prime minister oversees a large scale imigration event, he is no longer conservative. You might not realize it, but by demonstrating how much the whole political spectrum shifted to the left, you are arguing GPs point.

         I find it quite horrendous how easy the left got manipulated into reviving the right by importing extremists and dhijhadis and waging warfare on the economic basis of western wealth.

         1. ReflectedImage · 1791135115 · focus · HN ↗

            Mass migration is a core Conservative policy. Even Reform made up of ex-Conservatives has agreed to mass migration in talks with their donors.

            Importing people rather than investing in the locals is a core right wing belief in the UK.

            1. hunterpayne · 1791166423 · focus · HN ↗

               That's weird, because the majority of the propaganda from the 2 right wing parties in the UK right now focuses almost exclusively on promising to stop mass-migration. Its been this way for several years.

               1. iso1631 · 1791191676 · focus · HN ↗

                  What parties say and what they do are very different.

                  The right wing wants to import cheap labour. That's why they fell out with Europe when European Labour started pushing up the cost of British labour.

                  non-British long-term immigration in 2010 when the right wing party took over was 498k a year. By 2023, their last full year of power, it was 1291k a year.

                  Since then its dropped back to 703k, lower than the value when the Lib Dems were booted out of office and the government went full Tory.

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