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1. Noaidi · 1791085293 · focus · HN ↗

   Only humans can have morality. If you do not feel pain, you cannot empathize with pain if you cannot die, you cannot emphasize with the loss of life.

   Just stop this already.

   You’re all imagining that Spock was the main character of Star Trek, but it was in fact, the emotional living Captain Kirk, who was the main star.

   1. sigmar · 1791086937 · focus · HN ↗

      So humans that can't feel pain can't have morality? That doesn't make sense to me.

      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Congenital_insensitivity_to_pain" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Congenital_insensitivity_to_pa...

      1. Noaidi · 1791087999 · focus · HN ↗

         It doesn’t make sense to me either, which is why I didn’t write that. You missed the empathy part as most people do.

         There is still something in those people who cannot feel pain, and that’s the empathy. How can a GPU and software ever have a human empathy if it has never been human?

         1. hardbass · 1791109262 · focus · HN ↗

            Your difficulty is that you didn&#x27;t take into account that human itself is as far as we know just a physical process.

            1. svnt · 1791110001 · focus · HN ↗

               Citation needed. If what you are actually saying is successful empirical science only produces empirical observations about physical processes, you are willingly wearing blinders.

               1. hardbass · 1791112578 · focus · HN ↗

                  Its on you if you want to show something magical exists in human brains. Show us all if you believe so.

                  1. svnt · 1791142071 · focus · HN ↗

                     It seems pretty clearly structured to be on each person to explore experientially and explain it to themselves.

                     But the more things a person must close themselves off from, the less open their consideration of possibility, the more I tend to see their worldview as subservient to something else.

                     In this part of society it tends to be in support of rapid, high reliability problem-solving, and rational explanation thereof.

                     1. hardbass · 1791142525 · focus · HN ↗

                        Equally well I see people who really have no idea about the expressive power and ambit of current mathematics and physics eg they probably think its just arithmetic, not knowing the power of a Turing computer for instance. Just as often also I see people simply expressing belief in something &quot;beyond&quot; without any evidence. I am not subservient to anything other than the basic common sense of requiring evidence for out there claims.

                        1. svnt · 1791143323 · focus · HN ↗

                           Have you read William James&#x2F;Starbuck, and how do you interpret that?

                           1. hardbass · 1791143517 · focus · HN ↗

                              I can&#x27;t find anything about Starbuck. Link me to whatever you think that is.

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