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We're going to need default hard budget caps on pretty much everything

608 points · 302 comments · elffjs

  1. joshdavham · · focus · HN ↗
    It’s incredible that in 2026, AWS and GCP are only just now introducing this. It’s possibly one of the most obviously needed features for a cloud provider.

    Also, does anyone know why it’s taken this long? I suspect it’s a technical reason. While one could be cynical, I doubt it’s an intentional business/product decision. Hard spending caps are both excellent product differentiators and could possibly save these providers money as they don’t have to forgive their users when they accidentally over-use a service.

    1. Anon1096 · · focus · HN ↗
      It's one part technical, one part a product decision. The technical part is that billing is not actually instant. As a most basic example, a VM reports its billing units every X period of time it is active. If there is some network blip but it's still running, then that billing data could be delayed.

      The product level decision is that "shut down everything" is something the customers you want to target don't actually want. Are we including deleting RDS data? S3? Glacier storage? If so then the headline will just change from "Hobbyist got charged XXXXXX on AWS" to "Business literally had all their data deleted because a hacker took over their VM and mined bitcoin". The only people who really want this are hobbyists and it's not a market segment that's worth chasing. Easier to do the status quo of forgive afterwards then even open the can of worms of deleting all of a business's data and all their backups just because they had a 100k overrun.

      1. miki123211 · · focus · HN ↗
        A lot of billing systems are organized around event delivery. The system does what it does and reports usage. This reporting is asynchronous and can be done E.G. via cron jobs running on a 24 hour cadence in certain cases. There's an internal guarantee that billing records for a given period are delivered by a certain time. Nobody checks whether the user has enough money to do what they're trying to do, just whether they're authorized to access the system in the first place. Shutting down accounts due to non-payment is more of an abuse / fraud concern, and happens long after the bill is delivered.
        1. Joker_vD · · focus · HN ↗
          Wow, I wish my my cell provider worked like that! Instead, they somehow manage to track and bill me literally in real time. How do they do it? Do the telcos have some magic pixie dust or what?
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