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1. JKCalhoun · 1791067032 · focus · HN ↗

   License plate reader?

   So the device should require very specific license plates to scan for—not the current dragnet. The software should only "ping" when there is a confident match with said license plate(s)—and merely log which license plate, time stamp a single photo, and note the confidence level of it being a match.

   The frame buffer should be the only place (a frame of) video is ever stored at all (excepting the high-confidence match indicated above).

   The only issue remaining would be whether we trust the device/software to have complied (and not have a backdoor) and of course there needs to be a legal warrant for every license plate uploaded (and it should expire fairly frequently, likely requiring a new warrant to continue canning for the plate).

   1. kennywinker · 1791070121 · focus · HN ↗

      That is a technical solution to a problem that has a far cheaper, and less easily abused solution: don't put up cameras at all.

      Building a system with "safeguards" in place that require constant oversight is destined for either regulatory capture of the oversight, or slow dismantling of the oversight.

      E.g. warrants -> fisa court warrants -> Xkeyscore

      1. JumpCrisscross · 1791071141 · focus · HN ↗

         > don't put up cameras at all

         There seems to be a real reduction in property crime in some places with cameras. I don’t think it’s realistic to take these down everywhere. (I was in the camp that they should go down everywhere. I’ve relaxed that position recently.)

         1. porkshoe · 1791072292 · focus · HN ↗

            You're conflating "any camera" with cameras that are attached to a centralized data aggregation system.

            Do you have any evidence that the massive centralized aggregation has had a real reduction in crime versus cameras that are locally controlled?

            or are you just spewing poorly thought out horseshit in defense of the destruction of our liberty?

            (though even this is through the borderline insane, and staunchly anti-american lens that a reduction in property crime definitively warrants the destruction of privacy and liberty)

            1. socializer · 1791072769 · focus · HN ↗

               > You're conflating "any camera" with cameras that are attached to a centralized data aggregation system.

               It's an increasingly meaningless distinction: most consumer cameras now upload to the cloud and people like it. View from anywhere, AI magic, connect to cloud-based home automation, etc.

               1. qmr · 1791073452 · focus · HN ↗

                  I've spent a lot of time pondering a startup built around local storage security cameras with OPTIONAL encrypted offsite storage.

                  I wonder if there is a market for this.

                  All my shit is local with local AI.

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