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Federal judge calls Flock 'indiscriminate mass surveillance'

483 points · 267 comments · sbulaev

  1. charcircuit · · focus · HN ↗
    What you do on public roads is public.

    The idea that law enforcement tapping into existing law enforcement knowledge constitutes as a search of "persons, houses, papers, and effects" does not logically follow for me. It is a search of law enforcements own property.

    1. slowin · · focus · HN ↗
      > It is a search of law enforcements own property.

      The roads are not law enforcement's property and my private car on a public road is private property that requires a warrant to search. These things should be totally banned, but even your argument is wrong since Flocks don't mask just the road, they record everything in their field of view.

      1. sippingabonedry · · focus · HN ↗
        > they record everything in their field of view

        Like all the millions of traffic cameras, dashcams, smartphones, and everyone's eyeballs?

        1. slowin · · focus · HN ↗
          Traffic cameras certainly have the same issues, but the others aren't aggregated and searchable by the police, they're for personal use.
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