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Federal judge calls Flock 'indiscriminate mass surveillance'

483 points · 267 comments · sbulaev

  1. joshheitzman · · focus · HN ↗
    Yes, that's what they are. But does that mean are they breaking federal law or unconstitutional? I believe we've been told by the courts repeatedly that we should have no expectation of privacy out in public.
    1. Waterluvian · · focus · HN ↗
      I’m no American but isn’t it a 4th Amendment issue, and the problem is how the various local, state, federal governments are using a private contractor (Flock) to do an end run around this by pretending that it’s no different from any private citizen recording another in a public space?
      1. LPisGood · · focus · HN ↗
        This has been allowed generally in US courts, to use private companies to collect data, etc.
        1. StanislavPetrov · · focus · HN ↗
          When a "private company" is using public land and public money to set up their surveillance devices, it is no longer private.
          1. SAI_Peregrinus · · focus · HN ↗
            And when it only sells to government customers.
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