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Federal judge calls Flock 'indiscriminate mass surveillance'

483 points · 267 comments · sbulaev

hypfer · 1791066044 · focus · HN ↗
> The deputy then used the woman’s travel history in Flock as part of the justification for searching her car, where he allegedly discovered 91 pounds of meth.
That sentence does make this less of a win tbh, given that with it, it's just an actual example of the technology doing the job it is supposed to do.
Like this, it's almost a trojan horse of something pretending to be PR for A, but actually being effective PR for B.
1. JumpCrisscross · 1791066502 · focus · HN ↗
  91 pounds? That’s 2 million doses at 20 mg/dose [1].
  [1] <a href="https://dancesafe.org/speed/" rel="nofollow">https://dancesafe.org/speed/
  1. NDlurker · 1791066989 · focus · HN ↗
    That's less than $130,000 worth of product. It's a lot, but not crazy
  2. KingMachiavelli · 1791067309 · focus · HN ↗
    That’s more like a therapeutic/occasional recreation dose and habitual users consume it multiple times a day.
    A survey found that average daily consumption was 0.9g and median 0.35g.
    92lb=41.73 kg = 41730g / 0.9g / 365 =127.032 average-user-years. Or basically a month’s supply for a small town.
    Like most consumption, the top 10% easily account for >80% of total consumption.
    [deleted] · 1791070329 · focus · HN ↗
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  3. junofan · 1791067418 · focus · HN ↗
    A gram a day is more typical [1].
    Still, that’s a lot to be tailgating like this lady was as shown in the court filing. Also, “[the arresting officer] told another officer that he ‘could see her carotid artery in my car. That thing was about to pop out of her neck.’”
    Sounds like some wild decisions were being made.
    [1]: <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40385390/" rel="nofollow">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40385390/
  4. mitxela · 1791072898 · focus · HN ↗
    Why is that relevant?

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