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Surely you have ultra-wideband radios on your bins too?

144 points · 81 comments · simonjgreen

  1. alexaholic · · focus · HN ↗
    I live in the EU, where I have five separate waste streams: glass, paper, plastic/metal, RVM plastic, and general trash. They all fill at different rates, while the collection schedule is essentially nondeterministic. The only reliable signal is that they arrive at 6 a.m. sharp in trucks specifically engineered to maximize acoustic output.

    My solution is similarly overengineered: a vision system combined with an olfactory system feeds into a biological neural network, which monitors the bins and determines when intervention is required.

    The neural network is annoyingly power-hungry, occasionally unreliable, and has yet to support OTA firmware updates. I also have a Home Assistant as a backup for when the neural network fails. It provides a gentle nudge that perhaps the bins need taking out.

    Shocking, I know.

    1. thenthenthen · · focus · HN ↗
      > The only reliable signal is that they arrive at 6 a.m. sharp in trucks specifically engineered to maximize acoustic output.

      This gave me a chuckle. It seems almost every where in the world this is true. Ofcourse it is quiet outside around that time, amplifying the effect, but I am always amazed why loud things always need to happen so early. Maybe I should become a morning person, but prefer dark, silent nights for concentration.

      1. Tade0 · · focus · HN ↗
        In my area half the issue is cars being parked on the way, which is why the truck has to approach the bins in reverse, which is particularly loud.

        The other half is buildings being spaced 7m apart, because that's the minimum allowable at this height. The echo is enormous.

        That being said it's still more tolerable than the people absolutely punching it through our 30km/h street with their modified exhausts and windows rolled down - as if the point for them was to lose hearing as fast as possible.

        1. lostlogin · · focus · HN ↗
          > punching it through our 30km/h street with their modified exhausts and windows rolled down

          Bring on the EV revolution.

          They’ll find some other way of inserting themselves though.

          1. grogenaut · · focus · HN ↗
            EV can drive some siiiick bass..
          2. LoganDark · · focus · HN ↗
            EVs these days typically have speakers that produce loud noise at low speeds, louder than a lot of ICE vehicles. I had to bypass a couple on my vehicle before it would actually be quiet. That had the nice side effect of disabling the beep when I lock the doors, too (which wasn't necessary anyway as I can already hear the locks + see the ambers flash).
      2. embedding-shape · · focus · HN ↗
        > It seems almost every where in the world this is true.

        The metropolitan area near me have had electric trash trucks for some years (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sustainabletruckvan.com&#x2F;renault-trucks-clean-city-barcelona&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sustainabletruckvan.com&#x2F;renault-trucks-clean-cit...), which when you walk near them, are shockingly silent, for how large and bulky they still are. I&#x27;m not sure how many been deployed, the &quot;old&quot; ones are still all over the place, and noisy as everywhere else, but surely these &quot;Renault Trucks E-Tech D and D Wide electric trucks&quot; they talk about must have been deployed elsewhere too?

        1. grogenaut · · focus · HN ↗
          for me it&#x27;s not the truck that&#x27;s that loud... it&#x27;s the shaking of the trash can and dropping it on the pavement to fall over that makes the noise
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