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We want you to build the next Git platform on Cloudflare

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  1. jesse_dot_id · · focus · HN ↗
    Lot of people in these threads talk about Cloudflare like they're forcing the centralization of the Internet. There was a DDoS problem and they got there early and don't charge much, if anything, to protect your endpoints. End of that story.

    Anybody else remember when a less evil version of Google gave their engineers time to go make whatever they wanted to make? And everyone was like that's really cool — to trust your smart people to make useful things.

    Every half-baked product coming out of Cloudflare feels like some version of that. Letting your engineering teams cook to see if the end result tastes good. Some stuff doesn't. Some stuff is amazing.

    Now I have DNS, Workers, D1, R2, email, secret vault, MCP, CLI, tunnels, access, analytics, and on and on. I have like 8 Svelte apps running with decent traffic for free. And they're stable. And it feels like Cloudflare is loss-leading instead of conducting bait-and-switch enshittification. I've been using their shit for over a decade.

    Looking around the rest of the industry landscape, I'm not sure how anyone lands on Cloudflare being bad for developers/engineers. My shit is centralized because nobody else does what they do and delivers the DX that they do. I truly feel gaslit sometimes on this site.

    1. ceejayoz · · focus · HN ↗
      > There was a DDoS problem and they got there early and don't charge much, if anything, to protect your endpoints. End of that story.

      But part of the story is that they also protect the DDoS providers causing the problem! To some extent, they&#x27;re the firefighter arsonist who suspiciously always is first to arrive on scene to be the hero. Recent example: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=48025001">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=48025001

      They had a very hard line on refusing to take anyone off their platform without a court order. There was a huge fuss here (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15031922">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=15031922) when they told the Daily Stormer (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Daily_Stormer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Daily_Stormer to go elsewhere.

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