‹ BackHN Continuity

Thread

We want you to build the next Git platform on Cloudflare

217 points · 201 comments · geoffbp

  1. Animats · · focus · HN ↗
    We want to have less, not more, dependence on Cloudflare.

    Single point of failure, for both technical and political failures.

    1. ivanjermakov · · focus · HN ↗
      Cloudflare wants all dependence on Cloudflare they can get.
      1. bartread · · focus · HN ↗
        I agree with both you and the person you’re responding to.
        1. iugtmkbdfil834 · · focus · HN ↗
          Same, but the real question is how. At this point, the things they are proposing are genuinely useful for the environment that we are finding ourselves in? How does one even begin to allow for less dependency here without appropriate substitute/mitigation for what cloudflare renders relatively painless.
          1. simoncion · · focus · HN ↗
            > How does one even begin to allow for less dependency...

            One remembers that during the vast stretch of time that Cloudflare wasn't offering the new whiz-bang service, one was doing just fine in one's endeavors.

            If one is fine with CloudFlare being the MITM for most of the Internet, then this doesn't matter at all to you. But if that or any other aspect of how CloudFlare does business and what their capabilities allow them to do concerns you, then that's how one begins.

          2. gonzalohm · · focus · HN ↗
            It's true that setting up a service without Cloudfare is painful. But there will be a day in which anyone that has set up something using Cloudfare will go through some pain either by something breaking or because Cloudfare will show their true colors.

            Do you want the pain now or later?

          3. txrx0000 · · focus · HN ↗
            Consider Nostr ngit. There will eventually be decentralized alternatives for GitHub that are better than GitHub, but not for a while. ngit is about the best we can do for now. And to truly get rid of civilization-scale cancers such as Cloudflare, we have to shrink the fab (i.e. put the equivalent of ASML, TSMC, and Shenzhen into a single box and sell it as a home appliance), because the root problem is hardware manufacturing, as explained here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49690354">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49690354
      2. thayne · · focus · HN ↗
        Which is one reason to not want more dependencies on it.
      3. brookst · · focus · HN ↗
        Isn’t that the definition of success for any company, even the most altruistic ones?
    2. tonymet · · focus · HN ↗
      less Cloudflare means more consolidation. they&#x27;ve been great for keeping cloud services competitive.

      We want more Cloudflare.

      1. fragmede · · focus · HN ↗
        We want more Cloudflares. The problem is the concentration of power into any single entity that a person controls.
Open on Hacker News to reply ↗

Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.