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1. pmontra · 1791058495 · focus · HN ↗

   Would Anthropic be allowed to sell LLMs in their current form, and us to use them as we use them, if their were deemed to be conscious? I know that they are not human so maybe slavery would not be an issue but consciousness would open a number of issues.

   1. Topfi · 1791059316 · focus · HN ↗

      Agreed, there seems to be a lot of simultaneous cake ownership and consumption going on here. If Anthropic earnestly believed their LLMs to have a degree of consciousness, their deployment and use of them are both an ethics and labour rights disaster, to be treated accordingly.

      More likely, they do not believe this if pressed.

      1. franktankbank · 1791063671 · focus · HN ↗

         Consciousness is not a high bar for human consumption.

         1. Topfi · 1791064185 · focus · HN ↗

            We do have animal welfare regulations. Whether those are sufficient, appropriate, compatible with ones ethical framework or view of how they (whether "livestock", "pets", "wild", living beings generally, etc.) are to be treated, is besides the point, we do have some restrictions in place.

            We (as in many major legislators and most humans) have recognised animals to be conscious beings, deserving of certain protections. Anyone who asserts LLMs to rise to the same must be accepting of similar protections being applied to such models.

            1. jackie293746 · 1791064398 · focus · HN ↗

               I'm vegan. Most of the people I know could give zero fucks about the daily Holocaust involved to put meat on their plates.

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