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Anthropic tried to persuade Pope that AI could be conscious being

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  1. pmontra · · focus · HN ↗
    Would Anthropic be allowed to sell LLMs in their current form, and us to use them as we use them, if their were deemed to be conscious? I know that they are not human so maybe slavery would not be an issue but consciousness would open a number of issues.
    1. krapp · · focus · HN ↗
      If LLMs were somehow found to be conscious, sentient beings capable of agency and suffering then yes we would still use them. Their utility to humans (and ability to cheaply replace humans in the workforce) is their entire reason for existing. Either we would use them or we simply would not allow them to exist in the first place.

      Given how we treat each other - we still enslave other people - and sentient animal species I have absolutely no doubt about it. We'd find a way to justify it.

      1. piyh · · focus · HN ↗
        Women have been able to vote for just over the last hundred years in the US, there's no way we would give robots rights unless forced
        1. EA-3167 · · focus · HN ↗
          Pessimism aside I’m sure you can of some troubling implications for a democracy that can create new voters just for them.
        2. enoint · · focus · HN ↗
          Entity voting already exists in Delaware, before women’s suffrage. If an AI instance registered as a trust or LLC, then it would deserve a vote in Delaware municipal elections.

          I think LLC membership would be the trick.

      2. chneu · · focus · HN ↗
        We would find some logic to place them below humans so we could still refer to them as "savages" or something, which justifies our objectification and enslavement because they "aren't human" even if they show qualities of consciousness.

        The script we use here isn't new. Its been used repeatedly throughout history. It's still used everyday in reference to animal agriculture, modern slavery, how we treat addicts, etc.

        1. 0x20cowboy · · focus · HN ↗
          Some people already use “clankers”.
      3. dist-epoch · · focus · HN ↗
        We're way ahead of that

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