> the doctors start saying things like, “Have you considered using a surrogate?” and, “Sure, the last 5 embryo transfers failed, but what if we try a 6th and cross our fingers really hard?”
To be fair, this level of reasoning is on par with free tier chatgpt.
To me this story is less about a triumph of AI and more about a failure of the healthcare system.
There's a certain class of nerd who becomes easily distracted by (and this is being generous) technological solutions that merely paper over the underlying social problems. E.g., "I love riding in Waymos because I can avoid lewd misogynistic harassment from Uber drivers."
Or maybe, and bear with me here, they recognize that they have zero ability to change the broader culture from being misogynistic and patriarchal, but they can take a Waymo and avoid being subject to it themselves.
There is little more tiresome than having to caveat every single statement of appreciation or enjoyment with an acknowledgment of one’s privilege or the continued existence of bad things in the world, etc.
So no, just celebrate the personal victory, you don’t need to constantly be acknowledging the larger problem. The larger problems have always existed, and will always exist in one form or another.
I only worry that this may be short term. With no acknowledgement of the larger problem future AI medical gains may skew towards misoginistic or otherwise user hostile, as long as it's profitable.
At the same time, while I disagree that users are powerless, I can see that dealing with the larger problem is very much tiresome.
>you don’t need to constantly be acknowledging the larger problem
When those larger social problems continue to exist and are ignored by a huge swath of society then constantly acknowledging them becomes a prerequisite to moving forward. Of course it's annoying--no one wants to have to do that; but collective action is the only way to solve collective problems. And it's more than annoying to people at the receiving end of those problems. Women risk life-changing outcomes in all of the scenarios implied throughout this discussion.
Yeah, that’s why they take a Waymo. And following a statement of excitement about Waymo with “of course, we shouldn’t have to need this, because blah blah blah” is performative virtue signaling bullshit that does nothing to actually address the very real issues you’re talking about. That’s all I’m saying.
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To be fair, this level of reasoning is on par with free tier chatgpt.
To me this story is less about a triumph of AI and more about a failure of the healthcare system.
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thih9 · · focus · HN ↗
It’s possible to both: celebrate the small victory and acknowledge that the larger problem still exists and affects the majority.
senordevnyc · · focus · HN ↗
So no, just celebrate the personal victory, you don’t need to constantly be acknowledging the larger problem. The larger problems have always existed, and will always exist in one form or another.
thih9 · · focus · HN ↗
At the same time, while I disagree that users are powerless, I can see that dealing with the larger problem is very much tiresome.
senordevnyc · · focus · HN ↗
mrtesthah · · focus · HN ↗
When those larger social problems continue to exist and are ignored by a huge swath of society then constantly acknowledging them becomes a prerequisite to moving forward. Of course it's annoying--no one wants to have to do that; but collective action is the only way to solve collective problems. And it's more than annoying to people at the receiving end of those problems. Women risk life-changing outcomes in all of the scenarios implied throughout this discussion.
senordevnyc · · focus · HN ↗