Please don't try this software. Don't signal boost it. Don't provide feedback. Don't try to find "the good stuff about it". For the love of goodness stop calling it "Meta".
Facebook is not run or owned or operated by trustworthy individuals, and until such time as the greatest majority of their leadership if removed, the company's dissolution across its various sectors of global political control and influence ended - just stop giving it attention.
Please. I don't know how much more I can take of people demanding justice from a company that is only now being fined for sins of the past to a tune of meaningless dollars while also goofing "ooh shiny fun avatar that does an ai how useful!"
>Please don't try this software. Don't signal boost it. Don't provide feedback. Don't try to find "the good stuff about it".
A refreshing dose of sanity in this thread.
It feels that everyone is quick to forget the sins of these corporations.. akin to a toxic relationship and after breakup, you keep on going back for mote.
If you haven't read "Careless People", you should. Peoples lives, governments, politics have been altered so facebook can grow and build its influence.
The least one can do is to say all that.
fair. but I think e.g. nitpicking about the FB rename to Muse distracts from the genuine points and makes the statements seem emotionally charged which makes it easier to dismiss
and I think there's also a point to be made that you shouldn't be too caring about issues that you can't influence, it simply causes harm toward yourself.
People don't like being told what to do, so saying "Stop using Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp/Threads" is going to cause the opposite effect, people will "rebel" and keep using whatever Facebook has.
Another point is inertia (which all of you should know by now)
If you want to stop Meta, I mean "Facebook" you must answer the age old question:
How do you move these users friends over to Mastodon, BlueSky or PixelFed?
If you don't have an answer to this single question, people will continue to use Facebook's products and no amount of "Stop using ..." would solve this.
tikimcfee · · focus · HN ↗
Facebook is not run or owned or operated by trustworthy individuals, and until such time as the greatest majority of their leadership if removed, the company's dissolution across its various sectors of global political control and influence ended - just stop giving it attention.
Please. I don't know how much more I can take of people demanding justice from a company that is only now being fined for sins of the past to a tune of meaningless dollars while also goofing "ooh shiny fun avatar that does an ai how useful!"
Please. Stop.
x______________ · · focus · HN ↗
A refreshing dose of sanity in this thread.
It feels that everyone is quick to forget the sins of these corporations.. akin to a toxic relationship and after breakup, you keep on going back for mote.
r_lee · · focus · HN ↗
you already know what will happen. if the model is good enough, people will use it.
you're asking for a lot of things here. I don't think most people take it that personally.
narmiouh · · focus · HN ↗
r_lee · · focus · HN ↗
and I think there's also a point to be made that you shouldn't be too caring about issues that you can't influence, it simply causes harm toward yourself.
colesantiago · · focus · HN ↗
How are you going to 100% stop this?
You of all people should know this.
Let people use what they want to use.
ungovernableCat · · focus · HN ↗
colesantiago · · focus · HN ↗
People don't like being told what to do, so saying "Stop using Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp/Threads" is going to cause the opposite effect, people will "rebel" and keep using whatever Facebook has.
Another point is inertia (which all of you should know by now)
If you want to stop Meta, I mean "Facebook" you must answer the age old question:
How do you move these users friends over to Mastodon, BlueSky or PixelFed?
If you don't have an answer to this single question, people will continue to use Facebook's products and no amount of "Stop using ..." would solve this.
simianwords · · focus · HN ↗
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