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Treachery in the Rodin Museum 3D scan verdict

325 points · 192 comments · CosmoWenman

  1. pj_mukh · · focus · HN ↗
    Oh boy.

    I don’t want to freak the museum out but I have 360 degree footage of large sections of the museum (mostly for a spatial index) and now I’m wondering how high a quality I could get with splatting the sculptures and making it public.

    Would I get cease desisted for hosting from across the pond? Or would they be too lazy to come after me?

    1. MisterMunchkin · · focus · HN ↗
      This case was about trying to obtain the museum’s own scans under FOI, it’s nothing to do with releasing your own scans.

      I’m open to ideas but I don’t see how they could screw you if they’re your own scans. They can’t copyright stolen artifacts from other countries, so they can’t get you on copyright. It’s not their files, so they can’t get you on piracy.

      Do it.

      1. thih9 · · focus · HN ↗
        >They can’t copyright stolen artifacts from other countries

        While the museum may have some looted items anyway, I thought this is about Rodin's art, i.e. items from Rodin's own collection and studio, or perhaps casts made by the museum. Discussion about looted items seems off topic.

    2. MattDamonSpace · · focus · HN ↗
      What is a spatial index
      1. pj_mukh · · focus · HN ↗
        I’m sure there will be a better term but that’s my term for a multi-modal searchable vector-store where you can use words to search spaces ala “that sculpture where the man is thinking on a door?” Which returns a physical point in an indoor or outdoor map.
    3. taneq · · focus · HN ↗
      By the time you get C&D’d it would be far too late.

      I’d spend a while thinking about it but I know what my immediate impulse would be.

    4. slim · · focus · HN ↗
      Rodin died one century ago, there is no copyright
    5. zulban · · focus · HN ↗
      Low resolution scans like yours are already available, generally. This case is about the high res ones.
    6. novok · · focus · HN ↗
      They might make flying into france really, really really annoying for you or cause you to get all sorts of nasty issues for you when landing in the EU.
    7. CosmoWenman · · focus · HN ↗
      I am very much in favor of private, and crowdsourced, and DIY scanning efforts. However, there is a real value to careful, high quality, accurate scanning of important works, and as the Rodin Museum itself might agree, the provenance of that scan data is important. When the originals are closely held and access is restricted, it's up to the institution to produce that high quality data and publish it.
    8. manytimesaway · · focus · HN ↗
      Act first, think later :)
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