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LeCun has "zero concerns" about AI wiping out humanity, recent "rogue" incidents

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  1. stratos123 · · focus · HN ↗
    LeCun also said back in 2022 that "if you train a machine, as powerful as it could be, your 'GPT-5000', on text", it will never be able to learn basic common-sense physics like that objects placed on tables will move along with them.
    1. mdp2021 · · focus · HN ↗
      > never be able to learn basic common-sense physics

      And has it at this stage, within in-depth take of said "learning", foundationally?

      I have not been able to properly check the studies for a long time now, but I remain unaware of achieved solutions on the problem of reliably referencing a world model out of a language model - that "counting the 'r's in 'raspberry'" be not guessing, not memory, but actually counting.

      1. Version467 · · focus · HN ↗
        LeCun's argument wasn't about the definition of learning though. He stated that they would never get these common sense things correct because they weren't sufficiently part of the training data. A statement that we can hopefully all agree has been thoroughly refuted.
        1. bonzini · · focus · HN ↗
          As of a few months ago they still have trouble, with low thinking, at the "should I drive to a car wash that is 100 m away" kind of question.
          1. BobbyJo · · focus · HN ↗
            It's a nonsensical question to ask, and how an LLM answers gives 0 signal.

            If you were home and a family member asked you that question, you'd probably criticise the question rather than answering. LLM are RLHF'd into being milk-toast helpers that just try to answer questions like that with no criticism.

            This is all beside the fact that the world of AI has changed pretty dramatically in the last few months.

            1. names_are_hard · · focus · HN ↗
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              1. BobbyJo · · focus · HN ↗
                TIL. I feel like I've learned this a few times now, so we'll see if it sticks this time.
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