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1. yewenjie · 1791106667 · focus · HN ↗

   LeCun has been consistently wrong for the last ten years, I am not sure why he keeps being amplified.

   Edit: I am sure, it's denial.

   1. lolpplrdum · 1791112067 · focus · HN ↗

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      1. dragon96 · 1791127638 · focus · HN ↗

         You can't pull the plug after it kills people. For example see [1], where the DOJ mistargeted a school with AI.

         There are scenarios where kill -9 isn't going to happen in time. What if the team that is harming people with AI is different from the one that is monitoring the harm? What if no one is monitoring? What if the user is intentionally malicious?

         And wiping out humanity doesn't necessarily mean shooting people either. Every trader involved in the '08 financial crisis was locally acting in their own interests. Those could have easily been AIs optimizing trading strategies too.

         [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;futurism.com&#x2F;artificial-intelligence&#x2F;us-military-pentagon-ai-iranian-children-school-war-crimes" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;futurism.com&#x2F;artificial-intelligence&#x2F;us-military-pen...

         1. lolpplrdum · 1791131605 · focus · HN ↗

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            1. dragon96 · 1791133596 · focus · HN ↗

               I won&#x27;t bother arguing, but there&#x27;s also no need to be rude about it
            2. pixl97 · 1791135015 · focus · HN ↗

               This is a very ironic statement.

               Do you think that AI killing us would not involve us doing stupid shit with AI first? Or do you have some strange idea that this strange AI we&#x27;re talking about would just pop up out of nowhere like a miracle?

               1. lolpplrdum · 1791135927 · focus · HN ↗

                  lol precisely. At least you have come around to my argument. Its stupid people doing stupid things, not some amazing AI that spits out text doing it. Stupid people kill people today already. Stupid people have always existed but LLMS are not going to wipe out humanity.

                  There is no AGI, there is no intellgent text predictor that is scheming to make us do stupid shit to wipe us off the map, its stupid people that evolution will take care of. We have survived this long, we will be ok. We make mistakes along the way but we somehow manage to survive. The only thing I see killing us soon is climate change, but again we can stop it but stupid people seem to want us to keep going down the path we are. We will eventually solve that problem too.

                  If anyone has any strange ideas, its those parroting the idea that LLMs are AGI and will lead to the death of humanity. Utter nonsense but again thankfully nature and evolution has a way of keeping the smart and strong while eliminating the weak.

                  1. pixl97 · 1791143789 · focus · HN ↗

                     No, I have not come to your view at all.
                  2. cindyllm · 1791148116 · focus · HN ↗

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         2. mdp2021 · 1791185737 · focus · HN ↗

            &gt; in the &#x27;08 financial crisis ... could have easily been AIs optimizing trading strategies too

            ??? They were... There are books about the faults in the algorithms that led to the &#x27;08 financial crisis.

            &gt; pull the plug after it kills people

            Are you aware that in this regard &quot;AI&quot; means &quot;all algorithms employed in decision making&quot;?

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