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LeCun has "zero concerns" about AI wiping out humanity, recent "rogue" incidents

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  1. lukewarm707 · · focus · HN ↗
    Per <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;trace.manifund.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;trace.manifund.org&#x2F; a total of $2,846,125,859 USD has been wired into &#x27;ai safety&#x27; causes, many involving ai consciousness and p(doom).

    The outcome of this &#x27;safety&#x27; is restricting public access to AI and giving a monopoly of access to the industry. This is the ai nonprofit-industrial complex actively concentrating monopoly power in Anthropic in particular as creator, interpreter and safety regulator of AI.

    Much of the $2.8bn listed is indirectly, from Anthropic and EA. Three of the four people who participated in the $125m Anthropic Series A are now folding their 1000x Anthropic return into AI &#x27;safety&#x27;. Some is from FTX&#x2F;Alameda, which invested 86% of the Series B.

    Dustin Moskovitz: Facebook&#x2F;Asana&#x2F;Anthropic Series A, funds EA Good Ventures, transferred to Coefficient Giving, then $1.5bn into ai safety. $500m of Anthropic into an unknown foundation. Funding: $160m to Resolution (alignment research), $93m to Epoch AI (investigating the trajectory of AI), $63m to Redwood Research (oai report), $67m to MATS ( EA type alignment and security researchers), Institute for AI Policy and Strategy, Fund for Alignment Research, $53m to Kairos (building talent infrastructure for AI safety), $32m to Bluedot (online safety courses), $15m to MIRI (Yudkowsky).

    Jaan Tallinn: Led the Series A, now $10bn in Anthropic. Funds $199m (85%) of the Survival and Flourishing Fund, then $161m to AI safety including $14m to lightcone (Lesswrong, Lighthouse). $10m to BERI (existential risks), Palisade Research (studying AI capabilities to prevent loss of control.) PauseAI, MIRI, METR etc. Much of what Coefficient funds.

    Eric Schmidt: Anthropic Series A, $72m to AI safety via Schmidt Sciences. Over $1m per individual AI2050 researcher.

    FTX: Led the Anthropic Series B, bankruptcy estate sold $884m of Anthropic in 2024; $40m to AI Safety. Same orgs, Redwood, Lightcone, etc.

    Ruairí Donnelly (Chief of Staff FTX): FTX tokens plus assorted donors, $91m to AI safety via Macroscopic Ventures. $15m to Cooperative AI (currently whitewashing openai under &#x27;multiagent safety&#x27;)

    1. hodgehog11 · · focus · HN ↗
      &gt; The outcome of this &#x27;safety&#x27; is restricting public access to AI and giving a monopoly of access to the industry.

      This is unbelievably ignorant speech. I have not received a dime of any of this funding, but I do know many excellent researchers that have, and they do fantastic work. There is an unbelievable gap between theory and practice regarding the capacity of deep learning, and while great strides have been made to develop the surrounding theory, there is a long way to go. Many believe that without a concrete understanding of how neural networks properly learn concepts, we have little hope of molding them to be reliably useful. It costs money to hire researchers and develop fundamental theory.

      Just because you don&#x27;t understand any of that work, does not mean that it is pointless. This is fundamental research that is 20 years behind schedule.

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