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1. binlog · 1791037774 · focus · HN ↗

   We need a new rule that mandates every such "I am leaving <AI company> because of <concern>" post to disclose how much equity they have in the company and how much they have already cashed out. Easy to suddenly find a moral compass when you, your kids and their kids never have to worry about working for money again.

   Mr Robinson if you are reading this – if you are truly concerned about AI safety share proof of donation of 100% of your OpenAI earnings and equity towards undoing the damage you have done to society during your time there.

   In the absence of that this is simply a career pivot into being an AI "influencer" and/or raising money for a new scam.

   1. geetee · 1791037856 · focus · HN ↗

      I see what you're saying but how does that actually matter besides being a personal attack?

      1. skippyboxedhero · 1791038058 · focus · HN ↗

         Because the decision to leave the company is largely based upon their sudden, newfound financial security. They may give another explanation but the only thing that has actually changed is the identification of bagholders ready to cash them out.

         The other issue is that the narrative about safety within these companies is largely a function of the extreme financial incentive.

         As an example, Anthropic was an "ai safety" company that has now produced an AI that fails to listen to basic instructions. If you were concerned about safety, would you produce an AI that was unable to follow instructions? You ask a question, it begins executing commands and doing things.

         Safety is product to sell to politicians, not consumers.

         Not serious.

         1. lokar · 1791038740 · focus · HN ↗

            I don’t see why having financial security would mean you can’t also have concerns about the ethics of a company.

            1. mysterydip · 1791038912 · focus · HN ↗

               It’s that they didn’t have concerns about the ethics of a company for the years working there until they were financially secure

               1. lokar · 1791039350 · focus · HN ↗

                  You don’t know that. It’s more likely they came to the concerns over time and they learned more, but we’re not in a position to speak out.

                  1. mysterydip · 1791043679 · focus · HN ↗

                     Yeah, I wasn’t intending to make judgement in this instance one way or another, rather I was rephrasing the original comment for clarification.

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