My suspicion is that you simply can't build an even slightly competitive model without liberally stealing your training data, in 2026, as much as I'd like it to be otherwise. You can get to the point that I suspect most of the frontier labs are at, where you've laundered the initially stolen data through the creation of huge amounts of derivative synthetic data, but still. Anyone who isn't comfortable stealing their training data is bringing a knife to a gun fight, and is going to die a noble but inevitable death.
Is this true? Do they possibly use a loanword or a descriptive term? Certainly you are not implying that the concept of copyright does not actually exist in Chinese society?
For what it's worth, in my language we don't have a word for copyright either. We have the concept, though, we just call it literally Creators Rights זכויות יוצרים and the borders of what is and what isn't covered broadly map to the familiar concepts of IP.
petesergeant · · focus · HN ↗
> intellectual-property safety
My suspicion is that you simply can't build an even slightly competitive model without liberally stealing your training data, in 2026, as much as I'd like it to be otherwise. You can get to the point that I suspect most of the frontier labs are at, where you've laundered the initially stolen data through the creation of huge amounts of derivative synthetic data, but still. Anyone who isn't comfortable stealing their training data is bringing a knife to a gun fight, and is going to die a noble but inevitable death.
miohtama · · focus · HN ↗
dotancohen · · focus · HN ↗
For what it's worth, in my language we don't have a word for copyright either. We have the concept, though, we just call it literally Creators Rights זכויות יוצרים and the borders of what is and what isn't covered broadly map to the familiar concepts of IP.