My suspicion is that you simply can't build an even slightly competitive model without liberally stealing your training data, in 2026, as much as I'd like it to be otherwise. You can get to the point that I suspect most of the frontier labs are at, where you've laundered the initially stolen data through the creation of huge amounts of derivative synthetic data, but still. Anyone who isn't comfortable stealing their training data is bringing a knife to a gun fight, and is going to die a noble but inevitable death.
I mean, there is one, they have copyright law. Forgive me for being slow is this a joke about the widespread theft of IP in China? Or was the acquisition of training data just much more 'accepted' in China compared to the west?
I feel I messed up your quip =/ I'm new here, go ez. Not looking for excuses to hate on China either.
petesergeant · · focus · HN ↗
> intellectual-property safety
My suspicion is that you simply can't build an even slightly competitive model without liberally stealing your training data, in 2026, as much as I'd like it to be otherwise. You can get to the point that I suspect most of the frontier labs are at, where you've laundered the initially stolen data through the creation of huge amounts of derivative synthetic data, but still. Anyone who isn't comfortable stealing their training data is bringing a knife to a gun fight, and is going to die a noble but inevitable death.
miohtama · · focus · HN ↗
cheez-wiz · · focus · HN ↗
I feel I messed up your quip =/ I'm new here, go ez. Not looking for excuses to hate on China either.
miohtama · · focus · HN ↗